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Opponents asserted that Hawaiian officials had not explicitly addressed the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, and pointed to a provision of Hawaiian law that permits the issuance of certifications of live birth to those born outside the state or even outside the country. However, the suggestion that this could have applied to Obama was rejected by Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health: "If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu.
For the sake of argument what purpose would an American girl of 18 have to cover up the actual birth place of her son, if he had been born overseas? And how do you explain the lack evidence claiming she lived overseas before college? We know where and when she graduated high school and where and when she entered college. Where is the proof that she lived in Africa for an extended time and when exactly was that? Her son would have been an American citizen no matter where he'd have been born. She didn't need an "anchor baby" as someone here claimed was her motive. She never gave up her citizenship.
See my previous post here regarding his eligibility. He would not have been a citizen at birth, his mother being too young at the time.
Btw, you are far from alone in making that assumption. I doubt most Americans realize this.
Actually, I worked in Pennsylvania in the late 60s. My point is that the lenght of stay in the hospital varies by locale in the country, with the western states having shorter stays.
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You would find that info on a birth certificate. That info, including the hospital and doctor's signatures, is also on my and my children's birth certificates.
Big whoop! My own BC has only my name, sex, date of birth, mother's name, father's name and a rubber stamped signature from the PA Dept of Vital Statistics, or some such. My kids' have a dr's signature and the name of the hospital. I did not have to answer any question about where my husband and I worked, and what was our last day of work for my kids' bcs. I do not remember that being a question asked in Illinios, either, and I have seen hundreds of Ill. bcs.
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Depends on how much time lapsed between the expiration and the renewal.
Maybe he never let it expire.
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The issue at hand is natural born citizen status.
Which is not defined by the constitution.
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Looks very much like my and my children's birth certificates. They have the same info on them, including hospital and doctor's signatures.
See above.
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Actually, it isn't that simple. When a child is born outside of the United States to a U.S. parent, the requirements vary.
At the time of his birth (1961), if only one parent was a citizen, then said parent had to have lived in the United States for 10 years prior to the birth AND at least 5 of them had to have been after the age of 14. His mother didn't meet that requirement.
Because she was too young. So if she was too young, the citizenship of her parents would apply, and they were US citizens.
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See my previous post here regarding his eligibility. He would not have been a citizen at birth, his mother being too young at the time.
Btw, you are far from alone in making that assumption. I doubt most Americans realize this.
Only if he was born in the US, and even then, see above.
Yes, you can become naturalized through the grandparents - but that's still a naturalized citizen, which is different.
That is not what I meant. If Obama's mother was too young, her parents' citizenship would apply, IF he was born abroad AND his mother was living abroad. There is no evidence that she even went abroad to visit, let alone was living in Kenya.
It's not what you "did", Sir, it's where you went!
where did i go ??? honestly, let me know where you think i went.
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