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Background: Dick Morris is a lifelong Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, but voted for George Bush in 2000 and 2004 since, he said, defense against terrorism was overy important in those years and he favored Bush's approach ove the Democrats'. He is a campaign consultant who has worked for Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, and a variety of international figures.
And, like Joe Lieberman, though his politics are mainstream liberal, his views on defense are actually sensible.
Dick Morris is and always has been a Republican strategist. Working for Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was an exception not the rule.
Those that track intelligence and such, like the type that was missed in this case aren't new employees that were brought in with the new Administration.....
Correct. They're just under new, personal threat of losing their jobs, ending their careers etc. Hence their overcautious approach to forwarding intelligence information AGAINST people who are no longer regarded as our enemies, but merely as muggers or purse-snatchers.
With the terror attacks now starting to occur again, and the obvious screwups in forwarding intelligence information that could have prevented them, what chance do you suppose there is for Obama to recognize the real causes for those screwups, and start supporting his intelligence services instead of trying to prosecute them for doing their jobs?
Timidity and caution have become the order of the day in our intelligence community. The failure of the intelligence operatives to pass along the information about the Ft. Hood shooter or the airline bomber did not flow from a blind spot or a lack of co-ordination, they stemmed from terrorism of a different sort -- the terror of making a mistake and falling on the harsh mercies of Eric Holder.
Sounds like yet another success story on how bloating the government with yet another massive agency like Department of Homeland Security is our standard method of dealing with modern asymmetrical warfare. If something fails, then build it twice as big for three times the price, then it will be too big to fail.
The terrorist know hussein obama is a weak man. He has sent enough messages to our enemies that America is wide open for attack. I believe he would like to see a crisis so Rham can do his dirty work.
I will think about what you have said, are we coming across as weak, i believe so.
I will think about what you have said, are we coming across as weak, i believe so.
If so many on the right are so concerned with our nation being seen as weak, then why are so many on the right unwilling to put their money where their mouth is and go to the Middle East and show the terrorist how tough we are?
Its no wonder we are seen as weak, all our real warriors are over here on forums just waiting for that key moment to strike at the heart of terrorism and deal it one swift blow and end all evil in the world.
Correct. They're just under new, personal threat of losing their jobs, ending their careers etc. Hence their overcautious approach to forwarding intelligence information AGAINST people who are no longer regarded as our enemies, but merely as muggers or purse-snatchers.
With the terror attacks now starting to occur again, and the obvious screwups in forwarding intelligence information that could have prevented them, what chance do you suppose there is for Obama to recognize the real causes for those screwups, and start supporting his intelligence services instead of trying to prosecute them for doing their jobs?
So is it your contention that Obama told all of the employees at the embassies something to the effect of, "Okay now!!! I don't care how it was done before, but you are going to be less vigilent!!! You are going to ignore terrorist threats!!! And you are going to do everything within your power to be complacent around here!!" ???
C'mon now.... The process worked as it always had. We got burned because we got complacent, period. These folks didn't suddenly get a new set of rules on how to deal with this type of information.
No contradiction. This is the equivelent of a huge office building where a guy in the mailroom gets a call that there's a fire and to evacuate the building. He ignores it and nobody evacuates. You want to blame the CEO on the 42nd floor for not getting his people out of the building.
The current ambassador to Nigeria (btw), Robin Sanders, was appointed in November of 2007..... SWING-AND-A-MISS!!!!
Sanders, Robin R. (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/99592.htm - broken link)
People on his team were informed. we avoided 300 deaths and you seem to think its ok .
Have you wondered WHY, in this post-9/11 era, the obvious red flags exhibited by the Ft. Hood shooter and the Dec.24 airline bomber, never got through to where they could be acted upon?
Could it be that our intelligence agencies, fearing further prosecutions, blame, and career-ending tirades and accusations from our highest elected officials, at some point decided to delay passing on certain opinions or warnings until they could bild airtight cases and complete the CYA needed to protect themselves?
Background: Dick Morris is a lifelong Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, but voted for George Bush in 2000 and 2004 since, he said, defense against terrorism was overy important in those years and he favored Bush's approach ove the Democrats'. He is a campaign consultant who has worked for Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, and a variety of international figures.
And, like Joe Lieberman, though his politics are mainstream liberal, his views on defense are actually sensible.
Timidity and caution have become the order of the day in our intelligence community. The failure of the intelligence operatives to pass along the information about the Ft. Hood shooter or the airline bomber did not flow from a blind spot or a lack of co-ordination, they stemmed from terrorism of a different sort -- the terror of making a mistake and falling on the harsh mercies of Eric Holder.
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Terrorism happened under Bush. In fact, it happened faster under Bush than under Obama.
People on his team were informed. we avoided 300 deaths and you seem to think its ok .
I didn't say it was okay and neither did Obama...
The point is that you want to blame the CEO because a peon was informed and decided it wasn't urgent enough to tell anyone....
Someone wanted to claim that Obama picked the ambassador to Nigeria and that the people at that embassy were "Obama's" and I was simply pointing out that this was not the case. That ambassador was a Bush appointee. (And this is not meant to say that this incident is Bush's fault either, BTW, so don't go there... )
I'm reminded of a quaint little speech in 1964 for Barry -- no relation to Obama at all -- Goldwater.
Quote:
Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state have told us they have a utopian solution of peace without victory. They call their policy "accommodation." And they say if we'll only avoid any direct confrontation with the enemy, he'll forget his evil ways and learn to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as warmongers.
Well of course the warmonger mantra has disappeared. That rhetoric cleared up when Obama was elected.. Of course now we seem to be looking at even more middle eastern states with bent eyebrows. Any day those people who screamed warmonger in every sentence will be right back out.. right?
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