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Old 01-07-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Roy, without knowing exactly how that title is being used you can't possibly know what it means to have the title of Secretary of HHS appear x number of times in the health care bill. They could be saying something like: "This falls under the department of the Sec. of HHS" or "This does not apply to the department of the Sec. of HHS." You need to see the actual text from the health care bill before attempting to criticize it for the number of times a certain term is used. If, in fact, each time it's mentioned truly is making a decision of some kind, big deal. Health care reform is a HUGE undertaking.
How many ways are there to say things like you suggest? Maybe Andy Stern does know how to do that. No, I see lots of regulation there and unless someone can prove that I am wrong I will just accept the fact that "games" are being played. And not for fun, either.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Are you really that in need of help to post an intelligent reply? I see nothing from you but the same thing over and over. Lets do some intelligent discussing instead of your game playing.
Well, the first part of that equation would mean your spokesman trying to talk about something relevant on his show
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:13 PM
 
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Well, the first part of that equation would mean your spokesman trying to talk about something relevant on his show
What equation would that be? Do you want to claim to be better informed than Beck or even me? Get busy and do it. If the number of times that title appears in the bill is right there is plenty of relevance in what he said.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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How many ways are there to say things like you suggest? Maybe Andy Stern does know how to do that. No, I see lots of regulation there and unless someone can prove that I am wrong I will just accept the fact that "games" are being played. And not for fun, either.
And how many times does the name "Andy Stern" appear in the health care bill? Zero I'm guessing. Regulations are not necessarily a bad thing, Roy. Some of those regulations could be protecting the public budget from fraud and abuse that runs rampant in the system now.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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What equation would that be? Do you want to claim to be better informed than Beck or even me? Get busy and do it. If the number of times that title appears in the bill is right there is plenty of relevance in what he said.
If you consider the head of the health and human services having his name in a bill about health care frequently as a relevant issue, then bless your heart. You fit right in with Daddy Drama Queen and his minions.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If you consider the head of the health and human services having his name in a bill about health care frequently as a relevant issue, then bless your heart. You fit right in with Daddy Drama Queen and his minions.
When was the last time you saw a Beck performance? I think that never would be about right.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Is there a chance that someone who really thinks this thing Harry Reid bought and paid for with taxpayer money has any idea how many times Secretary of HHS shows up in all of those over 2000 pages please tell me the number I suggested is too many.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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When was the last time you saw a Beck performance? I think that never would be about right.
I saw Jeff Beck once. Does that count?
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:24 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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What equation would that be? Do you want to claim to be better informed than Beck or even me? Get busy and do it. If the number of times that title appears in the bill is right there is plenty of relevance in what he said.
Since you apparently see a relevance in why the title of the health and human services appear x number of times in a HEALTH care bill, so why don't you just tell us what you think that relevance is? Why play this cat and mouse game? And I'm already dismissing your theory that it's about regulations because, as I said, regulations are not necessarily a bad thing. Do you think that a bill written about Home Land Security would not have the title of the sec. of HLS in it on almost every page?
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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And how many times does the name "Andy Stern" appear in the health care bill? Zero I'm guessing. Regulations are not necessarily a bad thing, Roy. Some of those regulations could be protecting the public budget from fraud and abuse that runs rampant in the system now.
NO, NO, I meant that Andy Stern had a hand in writing it. I don't think any proper names show up at all, just titles of people. Your suggestion makes all kinds of sense but I doubt that any of that kind of thing shows up other than what the fines for not having insurance are. That makes me think, why does one have to have insurance? Could that be so they can more readily help pay for those who don't have the money to have it?
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