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Old 01-14-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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When BO chaired the UN security council meeting, was it unconstitutional? Our Constitution states that the POTUS cannot serve 2 masters. Is this correct? I believe there is something wrong with that.

In Violation of the Constitution: Obama Takes On Chairmanship of UN Security Council
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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Our Constitution says that? Wow! I've read it a hundred times and haven't seen it.

Maybe you should start by reading it yourself.
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Our Constitution says that? Wow! I've read it a hundred times and haven't seen it.

Maybe you should start by reading it yourself.
you need to read it again, it sure does say that.
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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Section 9 of the Constitution says:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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The story you link to quotes section 9 of the U.S. Constitution; specifically,
No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
In fact, this is the only section 9 in the Constitution, and it appears in Article 1 - the Legislative Branch.

The President of the United States is not part of the Legislative Branch.

Looking at Article 2 (the article covering the Presidency), I see nothing in any of the four sections that would prohibit this or any other President from serving as chair of the UN Security Council.

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution

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Old 01-14-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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Our republican form of government dictates that all citizens of these united states are to be seen as equal under the law. The federal government is to give “no title of nobility” to anyone – citizen or not – and no American citizen associated with the federal government – unless with the express permission of the Congress – is allowed to accept any foreign title of nobility, etc.

Barack H. Obama is just a man; an average citizen of the State of Illinois and thus a normal citizen of the United States of America. True, he has been elected to serve as a senator in the Congress and is currently elected to serve as a president of the executive branch of the federal government; nonetheless, he remains but a man – an average citizen with no special rights or privileges granted to him under the laws of our land –.Our republican form of government dictates that all citizens of these united states are to be seen as equal under the law. The federal government is to give “no title of nobility” to anyone – citizen or not – and no American citizen associated with the federal government – unless with the express permission of the Congress – is allowed to accept any foreign title of nobility, etc.

Barack H. Obama is just a man; an average citizen of the State of Illinois and thus a normal citizen of the United States of America. True, he has been elected to serve as a senator in the Congress and is currently elected to serve as a president of the executive branch of the federal government; nonetheless, he remains but a man – an average citizen with no special rights or privileges granted to him under the laws of our land –.
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Old 01-14-2010, 08:56 AM
 
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and again here:
The Title of Nobility Clause prohibits Congress from granting any title of nobility. In addition, it specifies that no civil officer may accept, without the consent of Congress, any gift, payment, office or title from a foreign ruler or state. However, a U.S. citizen may receive foreign office before or after their period of public service.

I think the President is a Civil Officer, is he not?
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Old 01-14-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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Section 9 of the Constitution says:
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State
The United Nations is a Foreign State?

I missed that memo.

Honestly. The depth of the desperation of the right is comedic.
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Old 01-14-2010, 09:02 AM
 
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The United Nations is a Foreign State?

I missed that memo.

Honestly. The depth of the desperation of the right is comedic.
yes it is a representation of ALL foreign states. Let me ask you, was the UN around when that article was written? Of course not, the true meaning of that Article covers this, stop playing semantics.
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Old 01-14-2010, 09:02 AM
 
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. . . and when did a chairmanship become a title of nobility?
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