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Old 01-15-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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If a bank accepted TARP funds, and paid them back, the government is wrong to keep on punishing them, with their boot continually on their throat.

I'm sure some banks have fired execs who screwed things up, and now 0bama wants to dictate how much a new hire can be compensated, even after the bank has repaid their TARP loans, or never took a TARP loan in the first place.
I agree this it just ridiculous

Its like if you go to jail and do the 30 days you were sentenced to do and get released and then a year later the state decides they wants to punish you some more and sends you back to jail for as long as they see fit
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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If they work for it and the Business is earning a profit they should get a bonus if the board approves.

Why work hard to have limited pay

So yea I am long as the business is earning a profit
You know, I've always wondered IF those big businesses/corporations actually paid people to post postitive "PR" messages, or messages of FEAR of "government", for them on Internet message boards all over the country? Do you think they might have money in their budgets for "PR" which they spend at least a portion of their budgets on by paying people who are really good at criticizing ANYTHING proposed which might cut into their profits as well as singing the praises of anything the big businesses want to do to INCREASE their profits at a cost of ordinary citizens? You know, those people are very supportive of the "free market" as being the ONLY way capitalism will work.....(although I think that's just propaganda so they can drain every drop of money possible out of folks.....or unbridled greed.).......so why wouldn't they, like the people who organized the Tea Party protests......use professional post writers on the Internet to try to defeat any policy or legislative attempts to have at least SOME regulation of their industries?

I would guess that big businesses like banks (financial institutions) and big insurance, and huge corporations, do, in fact, realize the value of having people post on Internet forums in a very supportive way in terms of whatever the big corporations/businesses want to do........in order to try to influence "voters" to be either afraid or angry at anything "government" might to do to try regulate such entities in order to provide a little protection to the consumers. After all, clearly they spent a lot of money to get rid of every single bit of effective regulation of their industries/businesses which was out there.........so why not hire people to write positive messages on their behalf on the Internet? I would think any PR department for "business" would certainly try to think of ways they could use the "free" Internet for their support and to their advantage.

Do you think that's possible? Do you think "big business" would consider spending what would probably be a rather small amount of money to pay "professional" posters to post the political messages on Internet forums which they most want to be out there in the public? Why else would citizens who were NOT big business owners advocate against their own best interest? Of course if those companies were PAYING people to do that writing, maybe at an individual level, because they may be making money doing it, those folks are not completely advocating against their own best interests.

What do you think about that possibility, Jade?
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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POTUS? I believe it's the NeoConfused who continually whine 'cause they didn't get their way


Nope that's not it, Some of us, can see thru to who the real Obama really is, and some close their eyes, i know so many, who voted for him, that wish they never heard the guy's name.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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I agree this it just ridiculous

Its like if you go to jail and do the 30 days you were sentenced to do and get released and then a year later the state decides they wants to punish you some more and sends you back to jail for as long as they see fit
No, it's not like that at all.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Nope that's not it, Some of us, can see thru to who the real Obama really is, and some close their eyes, i know so many, who voted for him, that wish they never heard the guy's name.
I don't. The people I know (and there are many) who voted for Obama do not regret that vote. WHAT choice did they have? I do not KNOW anyone who wishes they voted for McCain/Palin!! And that was the choice. Remember? Do don't know a single person who now wishes that Sarah Palin was a heartbeat away from the Presidency......especially given McCain's AGE.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I don’t know what Jade suspects but I am fairly certain that a few posters on this forum are not only paid shills but are the same person because of the similarity of their topics and writing styles.

BTW - any Liberal organization that wants to hire me send a PM.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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You know, I've always wondered IF those big businesses/corporations actually paid people to post postitive "PR" messages, or messages of FEAR of "government", for them on Internet message boards all over the country? Do you think they might have money in their budgets for "PR" which they spend at least a portion of their budgets on by paying people who are really good at criticizing ANYTHING proposed which might cut into their profits as well as singing the praises of anything the big businesses want to do to INCREASE their profits at a cost of ordinary citizens? You know, those people are very supportive of the "free market" as being the ONLY way capitalism will work.....(although I think that's just propaganda so they can drain every drop of money possible out of folks.....or unbridled greed.).......so why wouldn't they, like the people who organized the Tea Party protests......use professional post writers on the Internet to try to defeat any policy or legislative attempts to have at least SOME regulation of their industries?

I would guess that big businesses like banks (financial institutions) and big insurance, and huge corporations, do, in fact, realize the value of having people post on Internet forums in a very supportive way in terms of whatever the big corporations/businesses want to do........in order to try to influence "voters" to be either afraid or angry at anything "government" might to do to try regulate such entities in order to provide a little protection to the consumers. After all, clearly they spent a lot of money to get rid of every single bit of effective regulation of their industries/businesses which was out there.........so why not hire people to write positive messages on their behalf on the Internet? I would think any PR department for "business" would certainly try to think of ways they could use the "free" Internet for their support and to their advantage.

Do you think that's possible? Do you think "big business" would consider spending what would probably be a rather small amount of money to pay "professional" posters to post the political messages on Internet forums which they most want to be out there in the public? Why else would citizens who were NOT big business owners advocate against their own best interest? Of course if those companies were PAYING people to do that writing, maybe at an individual level, because they may be making money doing it, those folks are not completely advocating against their own best interests.

What do you think about that possibility, Jade?
Ooh, a conspiracy theory. I wouldn't doubt that many corporations large and small employ these tactics. Cheap PR. I wouldn't doubt that the government does this kind of stuff as well.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I don’t know what Jade suspects but I am fairly certain that a few posters on this forum are not only paid shills but are the same person because of the similarity of their topics and writing styles.

BTW - any Liberal organization that wants to hire me send a PM.
ACORN is always looking for some partisan hacks. Have you tried there?
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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You know, I've always wondered IF those big businesses/corporations actually paid people to post postitive "PR" messages, or messages of FEAR of "government", for them on Internet message boards all over the country? Do you think they might have money in their budgets for "PR" which they spend at least a portion of their budgets on by paying people who are really good at criticizing ANYTHING proposed which might cut into their profits as well as singing the praises of anything the big businesses want to do to INCREASE their profits at a cost of ordinary citizens? You know, those people are very supportive of the "free market" as being the ONLY way capitalism will work.....(although I think that's just propaganda so they can drain every drop of money possible out of folks.....or unbridled greed.).......so why wouldn't they, like the people who organized the Tea Party protests......use professional post writers on the Internet to try to defeat any policy or legislative attempts to have at least SOME regulation of their industries?

I would guess that big businesses like banks (financial institutions) and big insurance, and huge corporations, do, in fact, realize the value of having people post on Internet forums in a very supportive way in terms of whatever the big corporations/businesses want to do........in order to try to influence "voters" to be either afraid or angry at anything "government" might to do to try regulate such entities in order to provide a little protection to the consumers. After all, clearly they spent a lot of money to get rid of every single bit of effective regulation of their industries/businesses which was out there.........so why not hire people to write positive messages on their behalf on the Internet? I would think any PR department for "business" would certainly try to think of ways they could use the "free" Internet for their support and to their advantage.

Do you think that's possible? Do you think "big business" would consider spending what would probably be a rather small amount of money to pay "professional" posters to post the political messages on Internet forums which they most want to be out there in the public? Why else would citizens who were NOT big business owners advocate against their own best interest? Of course if those companies were PAYING people to do that writing, maybe at an individual level, because they may be making money doing it, those folks are not completely advocating against their own best interests.

What do you think about that possibility, Jade?
I dont care

So you think that this fee wont be passed on to you and me? hahahahahaha You think any corp is going to just eat it. So is it in my best interest to support fees for business that will be passed on to me? Then that business says enough of this I'm going over seas then guess what we are left without a job. So then I am what democrats want dependent on the gov to provide for me.

Why stay in business? Why open one? Why work hard? The gov can just come along and take it.
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am not looking for a job. I would just like to get paid for speaking my piece.
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