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Old 01-17-2010, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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I hope you learn to say BOHICA while there is still time. That way you can help yourself understand what is coming again. You are so foolish thinking that only those making over $200 K will be paying the whole cost. Just remember to assume the position and yell, BOHICA, just before they ram it to you.
roysoldboy your post is most accurate !

Assuming "The Position" is precisely what we the American People shall be doing as we receive the most incredible screwing imaginable from the extremely portentous "Washington Political Circus" !

The ultimate "Nightmare" is rapidly becoming a gross reality !

Thanks / Lamar
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Old 01-17-2010, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Somehow I can't see much from your link that is like mine. The unions bowed? They got their members the right to not pay that tax on their Cadillac plans and theirs are surely better than most others. They don't "get" to pay till 2018 which means that they have 8 years of watching the rest of the tax payers in this nation pay for this piece of Pelosi that may not get passed because of the dirty deal Obama worked out with the union leaders. If Andy Stern was in the meeting. and he certainly was, a bit of dirty socialism creeped into the deal. Read my link to see how yours and mine differ.

Unions nab sweetheart health-care deal - NYPOST.com
Good link. Either way everyone left gets the shaft. I cannot believe whats is going on.
Maybe a bunch of us need to go to the White House and scream and cry for a sweatheart deal, they seem to cave in to about anyone that pitches a b***h.
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Lubbock, Texas
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did not you complain on another thread that people were smoking weed they paid for with your tax dollars
Bad rhetoric. But indirectly, it is my tax money. Because if my parents weren't having to pay for everyone else's healthcare, fraudulent food stamps, indigent care for the lazy and the illegals, and fixing the governments in every country but America, they could pay for more meaningful things that they work hard to earn the money to buy. And when they have to pay high taxes, well, that causes scrimping and cutting corners. Which affects me and my quality of life.
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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Can 2012 get here fast enough? Don't know why my local politician could not give me a reason to not switch parties....hmmmmm.

What will Obama mess up with next? Time to get a job off the books so I don't have to pay for everyone elses health insurance. I am tired of seeing friends of mine and myself overlooked for jobs that we are well qualified for only because they had to hire someone because of political pressure.

What ever happened to the best man/woman for the job? Not because you are a certain race, sex, creed or anything else. So much for work hard to gain.
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:45 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Good link. Either way everyone left gets the shaft. I cannot believe whats is going on.
Maybe a bunch of us need to go to the White House and scream and cry for a sweatheart deal, they seem to cave in to about anyone that pitches a b***h.
It's the money they give. It's all about paying them for contributions past and future. Those who don't have huge sums to donate, don't count. They're just the 'cash cows', remember?

They've forgotten who works for whom.
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Obama sold out all of us to the unions, both democrats, republicans and independents.

Their $60 billion foregiveness to health care taxes will be paid by the rest of us, all the rest of us no matter what party affiliation. This should make all americans mad, very mad no matter what you think of health care or Obama.

dozens of articles all the same

Unions yield on tax on high-cost insurance plans- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut
0bama: “If Republicans want to campaign against what we’ve done by standing up for the status quo and by standing up for insurance companies over American families, that is a fight I want to have.”

This statement is typical, accuse the republicans of something that the democrats are doing. All you need to do is look at the K Street health care lobbyists who donated to Coakley's campaign last week.

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And if Coakley, as promised, delivers vote No. 60 for President Obama's package of health care regulations, taxes, subsidies, and mandates, these hired guns -- who have spent this year doing the bidding of drug makers, hospitals, and insurers -- will be fitting saviors of a health care "reform" that will enrich the special interests at the expense of consumers, taxpayers, and small businesses.
Martha Coakley, K Street's choice for senator | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Martha-Coakley_-K-Street_s-choice-for-senator-8754483-81271572.html#ixzz0cyXevkRE - broken link)

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Old 01-18-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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0bama: “If Republicans want to campaign against what we’ve done by standing up for the status quo and by standing up for insurance companies over American families, that is a fight I want to have.”

This statement is typical, accuse the republicans of something that the democrats are doing. All you need to do is look at the K Street health care lobbyists who donated to Coakley's campaign last week.
Good choice of quotes! This is EXACTLY what is happening. Obama stood up for insurance companies, drug companies and unions at the expense of the American families. It was so bad that some dem legislators had to be bribed to get them to vote for it.

That is why Republicans kept their hands off. They knew what was going on and wanted no part of it.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Good choice of quotes! This is EXACTLY what is happening. Obama stood up for insurance companies, drug companies and unions at the expense of the American families. It was so bad that some dem legislators had to be bribed to get them to vote for it.

That is why Republicans kept their hands off. They knew what was going on and wanted no part of it.
Its also why the democrats are doing all of this behind locked doors and no C-SPAN coverage, so Americans would not see them selling us down the river.
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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95% of us are going to get a tax break ya know.

Won't be holding my breath, how bout you?
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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what is so wrong with people who make more money paying more in taxes? The get more of everything else....like tax breaks in other ways. Someone make 40k a year pays SS tax on every dollar. But someone making 200k only pays on the first 90k. How does that make sense?

That is an argument for a fair flat tax where everyone pays the same amount. There is no reason someone who makes more should be penalized and have to pay a higher percentage.

What right do you, or anyone else, have to what someone else earns regardless of how much it is?
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