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Old 01-26-2010, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Boise
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Speaking for those who can't speak for themselves?

No, what's a joke is someone who thinks that murder under the guise of "women's rights" is somehing worth fighting for. Or would be a joke, if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
so you are in favor of shutting down choice?
if a woman is pregnant she must forfeit all rights to her body and make the child's come first?
we all know that if you're pregnant you should make the right choice to not drink, smoke and do drugs while pregnant.. but should that be legislated as well??? should we be putting pregnant women in jail if they're out on the back porch sneaking a smoke? afterall they are imposing upon the child in the same manner.. insomuch that it could be killing the fetus as well..
It's the chicken or the egg argument.. and catch 22.. which is why a choice stance is the only way to properly address the issue..and hope that the right choice is made...
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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Are you a part of the organization calling for this ad to be pulled off the air? If not then I wasn't talking about you. If you are then the term is valid since they're trying to force CBS to pull the ad because they don't agree with it.
You have no respect, Dave. Therefore, you are the worst advertisement for whatever point you've been trying to make. Get it? [MOD CUT]

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Old 01-26-2010, 12:19 AM
 
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why would you want to air a commercial about a divisive topic right in the middle of the superbowl when everyone at various gatherings are enjoying the game of football together regardless of their position on the topic...
The people who are pro-life will love it, and the people who are pro-choice won't. It's not going to change any minds.

Let the pro-choice crowd run their own ad. They have a right to do so.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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so you are in favor of shutting down choice?
if a woman is pregnant she must forfeit all rights to her body and make the child's come first?
It's the chicken or the egg argument.. and catch 22.. which is why a choice stance is the only way to properly address the issue..


I don't get a choice to kill someone because they are an inconvenience to me.

Women do have a choice - birth control, raising the child, adoption. But killing another human being isn't a choice they shoud be allowed to make, no more so than I shoud be allowed to kill the guy in front of me doing 35 in a 55 zone.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:20 AM
 
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perhaps tacky was the wrong word then...
inappropriate...

why would you want to air a commercial about a divisive topic right in the middle of the superbowl when everyone at various gatherings are enjoying the game of football together regardless of their position on the topic...

to me it's no different than buying air time in the middle of some christian church preaching show to talk about gay issues and gay rights..

it has a right to be heard and put out there.. but really is that time and place necessary?


Can't you just hear the old ladies shriek???

Thanks for that post, really. People don't have to be offensive to each other to make their points.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Boise
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The people who are pro-life will love it, and the people who are pro-choice won't. It's not going to change any minds.

Let the pro-choice crowd run their own ad. They have a right to do so.
agreed...
I don't for one second advocate censorship.. I'm just speaking purely out of opinion on the tact involved..
I for one think presenting sides of the issue is great... so long as it isn't used to destroy the fundamental right to choice..
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Boise
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I don't get a choice to kill someone because they are an inconvenience to me.

Women do have a choice - birth control, raising the child, adoption. But killing another human being isn't a choice they shoud be allowed to make, no more so than I shoud be allowed to kill the guy in front of me doing 35 in a 55 zone.
but smoking is perfectly legal, and so is drinking.. does that pregnant woman lose rights to doing those things when she is pregnant because it could severely harm or kill the baby in her?
there's plenty of ways to kill a fetus that doesn't involve a trip to planned parenthood you know...
and this is where the issue gets sticky
believe me.. I totally see where your coming from.. and totally agree with being a voice for those who have none..
which is why socially accepted circles where a pregnant woman is smoking or drinking she might get a thing or two said to her by a bystander... but that doesn't mean she's breaking the law or being hauled off to jail..
careful the line we walk... saving the children is great.. but not if the path it takes to do it destroys the principles of freedom and agency.. there are other avenues to make miracles happen and save children and actually make a difference.. we as a society should seek those avenues..to help people make better choices.. to lead better lives.. not take away their choices and force circumstances and ultimatums upon them..
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:24 AM
 
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Speaking for those who can't speak for themselves?

No, what's a joke is someone who thinks that murder under the guise of "women's rights" is somehing worth fighting for. Or would be a joke, if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
Yes I am.

I don't care what you think. Cry about it. Howl and scream. Whatever. It does not matter.

Abortion is LEGAL! even if it becomes ILLEGAL, we can flee to Canada to get it and more than likely it will become a underground black market thing. NOTHING you say or do will ever stop it.

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I don't get a choice to kill someone because they are an inconvenience to me.

Women do have a choice - birth control, raising the child, adoption. But killing another human being isn't a choice they shoud be allowed to make, no more so than I shoud be allowed to kill the guy in front of me doing 35 in a 55 zone.
One second the JOKE "prolife" movement says that are for birth control. Then we have others who call birth control a moral evil. //www.city-data.com/forum/12614927-post437.html

So what is it "prolifers"?

Until the JOKE "prolife" movement can get their act together, that is all they will be. A JOKE!
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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but smoking is perfectly legal, and so is drinking.. does that pregnant woman lose rights to doing those things when she is pregnant because it could severely harm or kill the baby in her?
there's plenty of ways to kill a fetus that doesn't involve a trip to planned parenthood you know...


If you leave a child in a hot car, you're criminally liable. I don't see any difference.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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You have no respect, Dave. Therefore, you are the worst advertisement for whatever point you've been trying to make. Get it? Grow up.
You're right, I don't respect censorship of points of views you don't agree with.
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