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Old 01-17-2010, 02:18 AM
 
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Facing a multibillion-dollar shortfall, the state will shut 13 parks by June, including the Tombstone Courthouse and Yuma Territorial Prison. Several had already been closed.

The Arizona State Parks budget has gone from $26 million in the 2009 fiscal year to $7.5 million as the legislature has struggled to close its budget gap.


Arizona decides to close most state parks

That's Republican leadership for you, I guess.
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:21 AM
 
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That is very very sad.
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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That's too bad. I didn't realize it would cost that much to maintain them. It would be a nice idea now if they had them shut for a while, invested a little into making them better, promote the crap out of them, and re-open them. It might cost a little but in time I think it'd pay for itself and by a good source of income in the future.
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Old 01-17-2010, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Come on! Why do people always fall for this gambit?

Every time a state runs short of money, they always threaten to close the parks or lay off cops and firefighters, as if there's not other place money could be saved. Instead of cutting through the already bloated budgets and eliminating non-essentials, they threaten to cut off the important things people depend on.

It's nothing more than fear mongering, designed to get you to pay higher taxes without demanding that spending be reduced.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Gee, I didn't know that you were an economist with a state budget specialty.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:44 AM
 
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Come on! Why do people always fall for this gambit?

Every time a state runs short of money, they always threaten to close the parks or lay off cops and firefighters, as if there's not other place money could be saved. Instead of cutting through the already bloated budgets and eliminating non-essentials, they threaten to cut off the important things people depend on.

It's nothing more than fear mongering, designed to get you to pay higher taxes without demanding that spending be reduced.
Get in touch with the state. Its got a lot of hard line no tax republicans. They probably want to sell them off to private firms that will charge triple for their useage.

They also have been laying off cops and firefighters. Their taxes were never high enough in the first place to deal with all of the retirees and the support jobs that would follow them.
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Old 01-17-2010, 05:56 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Former MD Gov. Parris Glenndening (D) threatened the same thing several years ago, as has current Gov. O'Malley (D) in each of his three budgets. What ended up happening under Glenndening was that the Park Ranger staff was cut, fees were imposed on some activities and no trash is picked up at the parks now. O'Malley disbanded the Rangers and made them Natural Resource Police officers with a cutting of staff.
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They have to pay for the illegal trespassers, welfare anchor babies some how.
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:06 AM
 
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They have to pay for the illegal trespassers, welfare anchor babies some how.
So raise taxes on the people that employ them. Its not like you can't find the industries that employ illegals and create a market for them.
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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Facing a multibillion-dollar shortfall, the state will shut 13 parks by June, including the Tombstone Courthouse and Yuma Territorial Prison. Several had already been closed.

The Arizona State Parks budget has gone from $26 million in the 2009 fiscal year to $7.5 million as the legislature has struggled to close its budget gap.

Arizona decides to close most state parks

That's Republican leadership for you, I guess.
New Mexico State Parks is cutting corners too.
I'm not at all sure your thread belongs here, maybe you shoulda put it in the Arizona State forum, just sayin'.

People who snowbird in New Mexico parks are being told to move on, and are forced to go to RV parks, which range in price from $105.00 to $230.00 per month, plus electric, which is considerably more than the State Park fees.

Governator of California has been slashing their services too, and their parks are not the only state run entities under the hatchet either.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNIJ1BFPO7.DTL

Maybe states should consider making their parks privately operated by independent contractors, which would alleviate the need to man them by state employees? just sayin'.

BTW, I'm a democrat, and I don't believe any of these cuts in any state budget nationwide has anything to do with politics, they just don't have the $$$$ anymore. So, it's not just individuals and families hurting from this recession, everyone is. The US Government doesn't seem to be hurting though, they'll just borrow more from China, and print more bills.
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