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Old 01-19-2010, 09:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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If Brown wins the so-called "Kennedy seat" in Massachusetts for the U.S. Senate, will it sound an ominous warning for other Democrats, in both House and Senate?

Might the other leftists say, "Hmmm, Coakley had a huge lead. But the biggest difference between her and Brown was that she supported Obamacare and Brown declared he was against it. And even the huge lead of a far-left liberal, in a far-left liberal state, wasn't enough to overcome the preference of the far-left voters there... they tossed her out, mostly because of how she would vote on Obamacare.

"Now, do I REALLY want to vote FOR Obamacare in the next vote? My liberal margin isn't even as big as Coakley's was at first, and there have been more TEA parties held in my district than she ever had.

"Uh-oh. Better make a phone call to (Reid or Pelosi, whichever), and extend to them my sincerest apologies, but I won't be able to vote for Obamacare after all, so sorry...."

Even if Brown doesn't win (I have no idea whether he will or not), but comes within a few percent of Coakley after trailing by a 2-to-1 margin or worse earlier, will that send the same message anyway to Democrats trying to get re-elected, in less-liberal districts than Massachusetts?

Even if Brown loses, this Mass special election might spell the defeat of Obamacare, as voters show Congress what happens to candidates who support socialistic health care bills.

Some Congressional Dems have been saying that, if Brown wins, they'll either hold up seating him in the Senate until after the Health Care final vote, or they will try to ram the already-passed Senate bill through the House without changes, thus avoiding any further Senate vote.

But if Brown wins this election, even if he doesn't get a chance to vote on the Health Care bill because of those maneuvers, might his victory (or even near-victory) cause some House or Senate Dems to change their vote, out of sheer self-preservation?
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:24 AM
 
Location: PA
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If Brown wins the so-called "Kennedy seat" in Massachusetts for the U.S. Senate, will it sound an ominous warning for other Democrats, in both House and Senate?

Might the other leftists say, "Hmmm, Coakley had a huge lead. But the biggest difference between her and Brown was that she supported Obamacare and Brown declared he was against it. And even the huge lead of a far-left liberal, in a far-left liberal state, wasn't enough to overcome the preference of the far-left voters there... they tossed her out, mostly because of how she would vote on Obamacare.

"Now, do I REALLY want to vote FOR Obamacare in the next vote? My liberal margin isn't even as big as Coakley's was at first, and there have been more TEA parties held in my district than she ever had.

"Uh-oh. Better make a phone call to (Reid or Pelosi, whichever), and extend to them my sincerest apologies, but I won't be able to vote for Obamacare after all, so sorry...."

Even if Brown doesn't win (I have no idea whether he will or not), but comes within a few percent of Coakley after trailing by a 2-to-1 margin or worse earlier, will that send the same message anyway to Democrats trying to get re-elected, in less-liberal districts than Massachusetts?

Even if Brown loses, this Mass special election might spell the defeat of Obamacare, as voters show Congress what happens to candidates who support socialistic health care bills.

Some Congressional Dems have been saying that, if Brown wins, they'll either hold up seating him in the Senate until after the Health Care final vote, or they will try to ram the already-passed Senate bill through the House without changes, thus avoiding any further Senate vote.

But if Brown wins this election, even if he doesn't get a chance to vote on the Health Care bill because of those maneuvers, might his victory (or even near-victory) cause some House or Senate Dems to change their vote, out of sheer self-preservation?

If Brown wins it is only because ACORN wasnt around to drive people into the polls and pay them to vote this election. Acorn didnt have much time to plan for Kennedy's replacement vote. But, In 2010 illegals will vote, people will vote 5 times and ACORN will pay them all to vote democrat.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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If Brown wins it is only because ACORN wasnt around to drive people into the polls and pay them to vote this election. Acorn didnt have much time to plan for Kennedy's replacement vote. But, In 2010 illegals will vote, people will vote 5 times and ACORN will pay them all to vote democrat.
ACORN had plenty of time, and they are there. One of the best things about this special election, is that Brown might win despite their efforts.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:35 AM
 
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It will have an effect.....

This is not just about "healthcare".....THIS IS ABOUT THE LAST 12 MONTHS....

Bail outs
The apology tour
Cap and Trade
Closing GITMO
Giving terrorists our "rights"
Sotomayor (Wise Latina Empathy)
Cambridge Cop acting "Stupidly)
Copenhagen
Taxes
Taking vouchers away from inner city youth
Abortion
Gay Marriage
Tighter government control
Unions getting sweet deals
Taking too many trips on Air FOrce One
Rev Wright (many wished they had listened now)
Bill Ayers (same thing)
Disrespect from Congress at Town Hall meetings
Attacking the CIA
Attacking FOX News



It's these things and more. The frustration is pouring out from independents.

I still think the Dems will keep ol' Ted's seat. They can always count on my people (blacks) to blindly fall in line. And ACORN will roll people out on hospital beds if they need to.....
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:36 AM
 
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ACORN had plenty of time, and they are there. One of the best things about this special election, is that Brown might win despite their efforts.

Goes to show how ACORN isn't about voter's rights. They just care that you vote Democrat.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The frustration is pouring out from independents.
The Dems are screaming that there are three times as many Dems as Republicans, registered in Massachusetts.

What they don't tell you, is that this amounts to:

30% Democrats
11% Republicans
55+% "Independents"

They try desperately to ignore that huge block of independents, who outnumber Dems and Republicans combined.

But the independents are not ignoring the ballot box today........

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Old 01-19-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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It will have an effect.....

This is not just about "healthcare".....THIS IS ABOUT THE LAST 12 MONTHS....

Bail outs
The apology tour
Cap and Trade
Closing GITMO
Giving terrorists our "rights"
Sotomayor (Wise Latina Empathy)
Cambridge Cop acting "Stupidly)
Copenhagen
Taxes
Taking vouchers away from inner city youth
Abortion
Gay Marriage
Tighter government control
Unions getting sweet deals
Taking too many trips on Air FOrce One
Rev Wright (many wished they had listened now)
Bill Ayers (same thing)
Disrespect from Congress at Town Hall meetings
Attacking the CIA
Attacking FOX News



It's these things and more. The frustration is pouring out from independents.

I still think the Dems will keep ol' Ted's seat. They can always count on my people (blacks) to blindly fall in line. And ACORN will roll people out on hospital beds if they need to.....
Don't forget when the White House told Humana, a PRIVATE COMPANY, that they could not inform their customers about how the proposed legislation might affect their benefits. What happened to freedom of speech?

Since when is it the government's role/duty to tell private businesses what they are allowed to inform their customers about?

Where was the ACLU in defense of the 1st amendment?
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