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Old 01-20-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: New York (liberal cesspool)
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Did the administration's quick pivot to criminal charges interfere with investigators' ability to obtain maximum information from Abdulmutallab?

Wouldn't it have been better to thoroughly interrogate Abdulmutallab without offering Miranda warnings against self-incrimination, and without providing a lawyer whose first instruction was, no doubt, to stop talking?

If, after 183 waterboardings, prosecutors can safely pursue a criminal case against alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed there's not much risk in questioning Abdulmutallab. Allowing for the explosives he was carrying and a planeload of eyewitnesses, any first-year law student could win such a case.Such questioning would not pre-empt criminal charges from being filed later. It would simply prevent prosecutors from using such statements, and information derived from them, in the criminal proceedings.

On January 13th, 2010, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair conceded missteps in the government's handling of the Christmas Day airline bombing attempt were made and that the High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group, also known as HIG, should have questioned the Nigerian airline bomb incident suspect before any decisions were made on whether to place him in the civilian court system.

."The FBI interrogated Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab when they took him into custody," the statement said. "They received important intelligence at that time, drawing on the FBI's expertise in interrogation that will be available in the HIG once it is fully operational." Abdulmutallab spoke for many hours to his FBI questioners, telling them he had been trained and equipped by al-Qaida operatives in Yemen, according to multiple law enforcement officials familiar with the case who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

At a separate congressional hearing Wednesday, FBI Director Mueller appeared to take issue with Blair's initial comments, saying there was not sufficient time immediately after the Christmas Day incident to use the mobile interrogation teams.

Blair's comments came as Republicans in Congress hammered the Obama administration for treating the near-disaster as a crime rather than an act of war.

Acting NJ Gov. and outgoing NJ Senate President Richard Codey (D-Roseland) penned a letter to U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano today, December 30th, asking her to resign based on her response to the attempted bombing of a U.S. airliner. He makes some very valid points.

Secretary Janet Napolitano
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528

Dear Secretary Napolitano:

I’m writing to you today to express deep concerns with the direction of the nation’s homeland security response, especially in regards to the handling of terrorist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallad in the months prior to – and days since – his Christmas Day attack on a Northwest Airlines Flight 253 landing in Detroit.

Based on the handling of this entire affair, I think it’s time for you to consider stepping down and making room for an individual with more law enforcement and counterterrorism experience to take the reins at the Office of Homeland Security.

The entire episode was handled poorly, from start to finish. Indications that Mr. Abdulmutallad may pose a danger to the nation’s security were not acted upon, despite the existence of intelligence suggesting that he may be dangerous, and working alongside Al-Quaeda operatives in Yemen. His name was put into a database with other suspected terrorists, but he was still allowed to fly freely and enter and exit the U.S. on a nonrevoked, multiple-entry U.S. visa.

After the Christmas Day near-miss, your public statements seemed more focused on public relations than closing the gaps in our nation’s security safety net that allowed a terrorist to board an international flight for the United States. You said on ABC’s "This Week" program on Sunday, "I think the important thing to recognize here is that once this incident occurred, everything happened that should have. We trained for this. We planned for this." On CNN’s "State of the Union" program, you said, "One thing I'd like to point out is that the system worked."

Public relations spin to the contrary, I believe there are 300 airline passengers who were onboard Flight 253 and would disagree with your assessment on how well the system "worked." It was by sheer luck and mechanical malfunction of the bomber’s equipment that the United States was able to avoid tragedy, not through homeland security training and planning.

We live in dangerous times, when enemies foreign and domestic are planning attacks that will cost American lives. One mistake is too many, and while we were lucky to evade tragedy in this instance, without an experienced person in charge of the Office of Homeland Security, we may not be so lucky the next time.

While I recognize that you are a dedicated and well-meaning public servant, I believe that you simply do not have the proper law enforcement qualifications and counterterrorism background to head the nation’s very delicate homeland security operations. It’s time that the United States move away from political appointees and former governors, and put the Office of Homeland Security in the hands of individuals with real law-enforcement and counterterrorism experience.

I know you are committed to protecting Americans, and I hope that you will recognize that the responsible thing to do at this point would be to resign, in order to allow President Obama an opportunity to appoint a more qualified individual to the position of Secretary of Homeland Security. We cannot rely on dumb luck and mechanical malfunctions to keep our fellow Americans safe from terrorist threats and attempted attacks.

I thank you very much for your consideration.

Sincerely,
Richard J. Codey
New Jersey Acting Governor

CC: President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Sources:
Intel chief concedes errors in Christmas bomb case - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100120/ap_on_go_co/us_terror_hearings - broken link)
Codey calls for Napolitano to resign | Politicker NJ
Pajamas Media » Detroit Bomber Failure: His Dad Tried to Warn U.S. Authorities
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We can debate back and forth the answers to the opening questions I posed but underlying all of this is another major concern.

How much does the appeasement and bending-over-backwards policies of this President contribute to compromising ALL of our safety?
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