Virginia marijuana decriminalization / medical marijuana bill introduced (Congress, drug, attorney)

[Sign]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

While I agree with you, there is a problem with that.

We signed a treaty outlawing Marijuana, along with most of the other nations who belong to the United Nations.

Thats why Hollands "coffee shops" can't advertise, and its why the sales of Marijuana there aren't taxed.

Stupid Reagen administrations "war on drugs"

Actually, it was the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 at the Fed level that outlawed marijuana across the land.
Nixon created the DEA.
He also resigned instead of being impeached.
Carter supported marijuana decriminalization and yeah, Reagan kicked it all into overdrive with "Just say No" and DARE.....crack epidemic and the propaganda to further demonize weed and its users.
Permitting such invasive legislation with Bill Bennet.

Marijuana users should NEVER have been treated this way since it went so mainstream long before Reagan took office.
It was basically, accepted and enough people already knew many a professional and professor who was an affirmed pot head.

Along came Clinton who never actually, inhaled and arrests for marijuana continued at around 750,000 annually.....on average.
Then GW for 2 terms....along with more states passing medical marijuana laws, but continued, futile efforts of the Feds, mostly....to disrupt the WILL of the people and State's RIGHTS.

Now.....marijuana STILL remains illegal and with NO legitimacy as far as the Fed. Govt. is concerned.

I think it's safe to say.....this isn't JUST Reagan's "war"

[inspironmini]

I am all for medical marijuana, but decriminalization is an absolute joke. It's the worst of both worlds.

So it's ok to possess and use cannabis, but not ok to cultivate or sell it? So where the hell are we supposed to get it from? It sends mixed messages and makes absolutely no sense at all. They need to just legalize it completely and stop pissing around with this half-way BS.

[jfre81]

Originally Posted by inspironmini

I am all for medical marijuana, but decriminalization is an absolute joke. It's the worst of both worlds.

So it's ok to possess and use cannabis, but not ok to cultivate or sell it? So where the hell are we supposed to get it from? It sends mixed messages and makes absolutely no sense at all. They need to just legalize it completely and stop pissing around with this half-way BS.

This is the problem with what they do in Holland. Selling the product in the coffeeshops is not illegal, but producing it is. Drug-warrior type politicians will point to that and say it's a problem with their policy, and it is in a way, but the point isn't the same. That's because it's in a gray area of legality rather than truly legal there. Holland, since adopting its cannabis policy in 1976, has pretty much left it up to organized crime outfits to supply the coffeeshops, which is not the way to go. That would be taken out of the equation, say, if the coffeeshops could grow it themselves.

[The Dissenter]

Well our outgoing governor has been leading like he has been smoking weed for 4 years. Why not let the rest of Virginia on it legally?

[Memphis1979]

[quote=Sign;12569258]

Actually, it was the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 at the Fed level that outlawed marijuana across the land.
Nixon created the DEA.
He also resigned instead of being impeached.
Carter supported marijuana decriminalization and yeah, Reagan kicked it all into overdrive with "Just say No" and DARE.....crack epidemic and the propaganda to further demonize weed and its users.
Permitting such invasive legislation with Bill Bennet.

Marijuana users should NEVER have been treated this way since it went so mainstream long before Reagan took office.
It was basically, accepted and enough people already knew many a professional and professor who was an affirmed pot head.

Along came Clinton who never actually, inhaled and arrests for marijuana continued at around 750,000 annually.....on average.
Then GW for 2 terms....along with more states passing medical marijuana laws, but continued, futile efforts of the Feds, mostly....to disrupt the WILL of the people and State's RIGHTS.

Now.....marijuana STILL remains illegal and with NO legitimacy as far as the Fed. Govt. is concerned.

I think it's safe to say.....this isn't JUST Reagan's "war"

I was speaking specifically to the UN treaty that made Marijuana illegal in all UN nations.

That was signed under Reagen.

The weird thing about Marijuana illegalization is that, it used to be that it was outlawed because it made you violent (according to the original lawmakers anyway).

Then, Johnson and Nixon cracked down on it hard, because they said it made people pacifists, and against war.

So they couldn't make up their mind, on why they wanted it illegal. Making you violent, or making you a pacifist.

Then, Reagen said it was destroying the minds of American youths, and thats been proven false.

Now they are trying to use the "smoking is bad for you argument" when its also been proven that Marijuana smoke isn't as harmful as cigarette smoke, and

YOU CAN EAT IT, VAPORIZE IT, OR COOK WITH IT, which requires no smoking at all.

I really hate the government sometimes.

[thinkin about it]

[quote=Memphis1979;12572190]

Originally Posted by Sign

I was speaking specifically to the UN treaty that made Marijuana illegal in all UN nations.

That was signed under Reagen.

The weird thing about Marijuana illegalization is that, it used to be that it was outlawed because it made you violent (according to the original lawmakers anyway).

Then, Johnson and Nixon cracked down on it hard, because they said it made people pacifists, and against war.

So they couldn't make up their mind, on why they wanted it illegal. Making you violent, or making you a pacifist.

Then, Reagen said it was destroying the minds of American youths, and thats been proven false.

Now they are trying to use the "smoking is bad for you argument" when its also been proven that Marijuana smoke isn't as harmful as cigarette smoke, and

YOU CAN EAT IT, VAPORIZE IT, OR COOK WITH IT, which requires no smoking at all.

I really hate the government sometimes.

Sucks you're in florida, man.

I love the state short it's cannabis laws. If you get caught with even a few plants you could do years of prison. It's like out of an Orwell novel down in the swamp.


The fishing almost makes up for it, though.

[Sign]

[quote=thinkin about it;12572225]

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

Sucks you're in florida, man.

I love the state short it's cannabis laws. If you get caught with even a few plants you could do years of prison. It's like out of an Orwell novel down in the swamp.


The fishing almost makes up for it, though.

To: JustThinkin

Memphis1979 quote......not mine.

Couldn't pay me enough to live there in da swamp state.
Gator country, kingdom of grey hair, humid , bug, snake-infested, Fantasy land, golf happy, English is a second language, lightning / hurricane capital of America.
4th most populated too?

NO thanks.
Nuthin personal.

Palm trees are cool though.

For that.....HAWAII........hands down!

[sickofnyc]

[quote=Sign;12572852]

Originally Posted by thinkin about it

To: JustThinkin

Memphis1979 quote......not mine.

Couldn't pay me enough to live there in da swamp state.
Gator country, kingdom of grey hair, humid , bug, snake-infested, Fantasy land, golf happy, English is a second language, lightning / hurricane capital of America.
4th most populated too?

NO thanks.
Nuthin personal.

Palm trees are cool though.

For that.....HAWAII........hands down!

For what, the palm trees or the weed?

[inventor1]

it can make a huge impact on the terrible position the Mexcans are in with nearly 6000 drug related killings a year.

It may give their government a chance if we legalize it and a few more. Even if just a few years for some that people have more concerns as a test.

Just read about a killing in Mexico where they stitched the face of the rival on a soccer ball. Just read about a policeman who took down or tried to take him down a big drug lord and died, the drug lords found out where the funeral was and proceeded to execute the living family members of the policeman when they went home from the funeral... and have all heard the stories of mayors who buck them and what happens to their family.

the mexicans have no chance with these tactics. we must legalize and sooner the better.

[Memphis1979]

[quote=Sign;12572852]

Originally Posted by thinkin about it

To: JustThinkin

Memphis1979 quote......not mine.

Couldn't pay me enough to live there in da swamp state.
Gator country, kingdom of grey hair, humid , bug, snake-infested, Fantasy land, golf happy, English is a second language, lightning / hurricane capital of America.
4th most populated too?

NO thanks.
Nuthin personal.

Palm trees are cool though.

For that.....HAWAII........hands down!

Huh? I never said any of that?

I love Florida, I think its Marijuana laws suck, but they've sucked almost everywhere I've ever been.

Besides, if I were to grow I wouldn't be growing to sell, but for personal consumption.