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Old 01-23-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Higher than Reagan, about the same as Clinton.

Poll: 51 percent approve of Obama after first year - CNN.com

Just depends on what poll to listen to. But funny cause i recently heard on tv and online from CBS LATEST NEWS POLLS FOR OBAMA AS OF Jan, 22, 2010. President Obama has dropped down to a New low of 46% who approve and 41% disapprove of the job Obama is doing. This accoding to the latest National Poll.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Just depends on what poll to listen to. But funny cause i recently heard on tv and online from CBS LATEST NEWS POLLS FOR OBAMA AS OF Jan, 22, 2010. President Obama has dropped down to a New low of 46% who approve and 41% disapprove of the job Obama is doing. This accoding to the latest National Poll.
All the polls are in the same general range.

As Ive stated, Im not really concerned at this point.

However we MUST begin to see improvement in the economy by the end of 2010.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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All the polls are in the same general range.

As Ive stated, Im not really concerned at this point.

However we MUST begin to see improvement in the economy by the end of 2010.
Don't hold your breath. A "double dip" is likely.

The people are removing their rose colored glasses and realizing their Emporer has no clothes. Meanwhile raising the debt ceiling to just pay interest on our TRILLIONS in debt finally is getting the attention of the average American.

A real unemployment level of approx. 20% is pretty hard to ignore. States are finding it difficult to meet their payroll and pension obligations and the funding for commitment to "social entitlement programs" is severly threatened by the decrease of revenue in state income and property taxes.

Obama has launched a personal war against the banks (to be paid for by the consumer) in order to give the FED more power and another slush fund. The Obama administration wants to throw more good money after bad with Spendulus II.

How do you see the economy improving in the next 11 mos. ?

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Old 01-23-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Don't hold your breath. A "double dip" is likely.
For all our sakes, I hope that isnt the case.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Actually the polls for "likability" are still quite high for Obama.
What part of my post did you not read?
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Yes, its preferable for this to happen in the 1st year than in the 4th year.

What opponents clearly don't see is the President's possible big rise should we see only a small improvement in the economy.

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/obama-economic-plan.jpg (broken link)23 January 2010 is the second year.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Would you be happy if only 51 percent of the people that you represent at your job found you favorable?

Personally, i'd be mortified to know that I was so unliked.
As I'm sure you are aware, the presidency is no normal job. Fixing a collapsed economy and two poorly-managed wars is not on a lot of job descriptions.

So, yes, still having a plurality (slim as it may be) in support after the first year is a very good sign - too high and there's only down to go. It's just frustrating to a lot of us independent that you conservatives who bash and bash Obama for poll ratings would probably have defended Reagan for the same.

There's just not a lot of substance to the argument.
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Old 01-23-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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23 January 2010 is the second year.
You are clearly not familiar with Keynesian economics or the fact that every single developed nation in the world did the exact same thing and their economies are in full recovery. Since the collapse started with our economy, it hit us hardest and thus recovery will be slowest, but the principle is well used worldwide. Nothing really original in what Obama's doing.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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As I'm sure you are aware, the presidency is no normal job. Fixing a collapsed economy and two poorly-managed wars is not on a lot of job descriptions.

So, yes, still having a plurality (slim as it may be) in support after the first year is a very good sign - too high and there's only down to go. It's just frustrating to a lot of us independent that you conservatives who bash and bash Obama for poll ratings would probably have defended Reagan for the same.

There's just not a lot of substance to the argument.

The election of Brown was due to Obama not concentrating on the economy and the war, but on Obama's healthcare plan and wasteful government spending.

Obama was elected to fix the economy. The Obama stimulus package was nothing more than political payoffs and pork. Un Employment is 10%.
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Old 01-23-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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The election of Brown was due to Obama not concentrating on the economy and the war, but on Obama's healthcare plan and wasteful government spending.

Obama was elected to fix the economy. The Obama stimulus package was nothing more than political payoffs and pork. Un Employment is 10%.
Unemployment is one word, which I'm sure you know from your extensive research on the subject.

So, pulling a collapsed economy back from the brink of depression and reducing job losses every single month by tens of thousands (and even having positive job growth in November) is not enough for a year? The experts have a pretty unified consensus that the stimulus had a significant impact on the economy and will continue to - kept a lot of state and local governments from collapsing and gave tons of tax cuts.

What had Reagan, the icon of conservatism, accomplished in his first year dealing with a collapsed economy? Don't know? Okay. I'll tell you: over 11% unemployment.

It would remain above 10% the first 3 years of Reagan's presidency. So, I guess the end result is simply that you are judging economic recovery prematurely.


Btw - a swing back to more balance between Reps and Dems is destined to happen if history is any indication. Expect big pick-ups in November for Republicans. Just the way politics works.
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