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Old 01-24-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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[quote=nononsenseguy;12595574]Two wars? There is the "War on Terror" (which Obama refuses to acknowledge). What was the other war?What a load of BS, he does not refuse to acknowledge the war on terror, pure rightwing propaganda. The fact is he is refocusing our efforts to that war, instead of the one Dubya got sidetracked onto. You rights kill me, of all the people put there I would have expected you to be glad we are finally back to business, I guess political games are more important than getting the job done.

You're living in some kind of dream world. Wake up to reality. Obama is a total failure. We are hundreds of times worse off than at the end of Bush's term.Thanks to what Bush did not do and allowed, is there some reason you righties miss that simple fact?


Obama stinks. Period. There isn't anything good that can be said.And we knoiw you never have said any of them before or after the elections and never will, so what is your point, that you hate the man, so suprising.[/quote]
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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Two wars? There is the "War on Terror" (which Obama refuses to acknowledge). What was the other war?

You're living in some kind of dream world. Wake up to reality. Obama is a total failure. We are hundreds of times worse off than at the end of Bush's term.

I am self employed. There has been virtually no business since Obama's election. And others like me that I know who are self employed are in the same situation.

Obama stinks. Period. There isn't anything good that can be said.
Umm... Wow. You are really enjoying stretching reality to unheard of proportions. Okay:

1. I'm not sure you heard, but we are fighting two wars: the one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They are not two theatres of the same war since the premise of invading Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. It had to do with a dictator supposedly possessing weapons that could damage us. That is state-to-state, not terrorism.

2. Obama is quite clear about fighting terrorists and has done far more than Bush ever did. To not call it a "war" is a tactical maneuver first developed by Britain so as to not provide fodder for terror cells to recruit young terrorists based on the premise that they are in an epic war against the "white devil" or whatever they want to call us. Treat them like criminals, they become nothing more than criminals.

3. You really don't understand that a president doesn't control the economy? He can only influence its direction with policy that takes time to filter through the markets. The collapse of the economy happened under Bush and its repercussions throughout 2009 have been because of that collapse. To try and blame Obama for it would be like blaming Reagan for the collapse that happened under Carter or Clinton for the recession that happened under Bush I.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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Umm... Wow. You are really enjoying stretching reality to unheard of proportions. Okay:

1. I'm not sure you heard, but we are fighting two wars: the one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan. They are not two theatres of the same war since the premise of invading Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. It had to do with a dictator supposedly possessing weapons that could damage us. That is state-to-state, not terrorism.

2. Obama is quite clear about fighting terrorists and has done far more than Bush ever did. To not call it a "war" is a tactical maneuver first developed by Britain so as to not provide fodder for terror cells to recruit young terrorists based on the premise that they are in an epic war against the "white devil" or whatever they want to call us. Treat them like criminals, they become nothing more than criminals.

3. You really don't understand that a president doesn't control the economy? He can only influence its direction with policy that takes time to filter through the markets. The collapse of the economy happened under Bush and its repercussions throughout 2009 have been because of that collapse. To try and blame Obama for it would be like blaming Reagan for the collapse that happened under Carter or Clinton for the recession that happened under Bush I.
Thank You for bring reality back into the discussion,
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