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Old 01-25-2010, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Please stop considering ANY part of the Republican Party is supporting socialism in any way shape or form. They are universally supporting big finance owned corporatism where the government protects the monopolies against any and all competition. This is the core belief of the Republican Party. All the rest is propaganda to avoid this glaring inconsistency with their professed support of all the people.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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And you do that by promoting socialists into the ranks of the Republicans? I don't get Rush's stratergy at all.
It's a strategy based on realism. The third party candidate has a 0% of winning. Brown is not a Socialist, who he ran against was.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:35 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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And you do that by promoting socialists into the ranks of the Republicans?
if brown is a socialist, what, exactly, is obama?
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Riverside, CA
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Rush uses politics, Howard Stern uses sex, Beck uses insanity. They are just out for ratings. The more outrageous the talk, the better the ratings.

I doubt that they even believe all the stuff they are saying.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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You people wouldn't know a conservative if one bit you on the butt. Scott Brown a socialist? LOL, please. Then you have no room to speak when people call Obama a socialist if you think Brown is one. Here are Brown's stances taken directly from his website:

Health Care I believe that all Americans deserve health care coverage, but I am opposed to the health care legislation that is under consideration in Congress and will vote against it. It will raise taxes, increase government spending and lower the quality of care, especially for elders on Medicare. I support strengthening the existing private market system with policies that will drive down costs and make it easier for people to purchase affordable insurance. In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage, but I also recognize that the state must now turn its attention to controlling costs.

Economy
I am a free enterprise advocate who believes that lower taxes can encourage economic growth. Raising taxes stifles growth, weakens the economy and puts more people out of work. Our economy works best when individuals have more of their income to spend, and businesses have money to invest and add jobs. I have been a fiscal watchdog in the state legislature fighting bigger government, higher taxes and wasteful spending.

Energy and Environment
I support common-sense environment policy that will help to reduce pollution and preserve our precious open spaces. I realize that without action now, future generations will be left to clean up the mess we leave. In order to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, I support reasonable and appropriate development of alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal and improved hydroelectric facilities. I oppose a national cap and trade program because of the higher costs that families and businesses would incur.

Education
I am passionate about improving the quality of our public schools. Accountability and high standards are paramount. I support choice through charter schools, as well as the MCAS exam as a graduation requirement. I have worked to ensure that all children have access to a quality education. I am a strong advocate for the METCO program, which provides lower income students with broader educational opportunities.

Immigration
I recognize that our strength as a nation is built on the immigrant experience in America. I welcome legal immigration to this country. However, we are also a nation of laws and government should not adopt policies that encourage illegal immigration. Providing driver’s licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrant families will act as a magnet in drawing more people here in violation of the law and it will impose new costs on taxpayers. I oppose amnesty, and I believe we ought to strengthen our border enforcement and institute an employment verification system with penalties for companies that hire illegal immigrants.

Gun issues
I support the Second Amendment and believe that citizens have the right to keep and bear arms as a basic constitutional liberty. I support safe and responsible gun ownership.

Death penalty
I believe there are some crimes that are so heinous that they deserve capital punishment. Our Government should have the ability to impose the death penalty in cases where it is justified.

Abortion
While this decision should ultimately be made by the woman in consultation with her doctor, I believe we need to reduce the number of abortions in America. I believe government has the responsibility to regulate in this area and I support parental consent and notification requirements and I oppose partial birth abortion. I also believe there are people of good will on both sides of the issue and we ought to work together to support and promote adoption as an alternative to abortion.

Marriage
I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. States should be free to make their own laws in this area, so long as they reflect the people's will as expressed through them directly, or as expressed through their elected representatives.

Israel
Israel has made enormous sacrifices in an attempt to secure peace – including unilateral withdrawal from Gaza. I support a two-state solution that reaffirms Israel’s right to exist and provides the Palestinians with a place of their own where both sides can live in peace and security. As our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel lives every day under the threat of terror yet shares with America a dedication to democratic ideals, a respect for faith, and a commitment to peace in the region. Until a lasting peace is achieved, I support the security barrier erected by Israel which has proven successful in protecting Israeli civilians from terrorist attacks.

Iran
I support the bi-partisan Iran sanctions bill and believe that until Ahmadinejad gives up his nuclear ambitions he should be isolated from the rest of the world. With its reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons, Iran represents the biggest threat to Israel. Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier who has threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Meeting with him confers legitimacy when the only correct response is to treat him as an outcast. A personal meeting with Ahmadinejad, as suggested by my opponent, would embolden him and be used as a propaganda tool to strengthen his position.




So tell me, how is this man a socialist or a RINO? Yes, he supports a woman's right to choice, as do I but I don't think anyone on this forum would mistake me for a RINO or a socialist. Give it up people.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Please stop considering ANY part of the Republican Party is supporting socialism in any way shape or form. They are universally supporting big finance owned corporatism where the government protects the monopolies against any and all competition. This is the core belief of the Republican Party. All the rest is propaganda to avoid this glaring inconsistency with their professed support of all the people.
But it is a form of socialism. It is corporate socialism.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a strategy based on realism. The third party candidate has a 0% of winning. Brown is not a Socialist, who he ran against was.
Brown is definetly a socialist. Read OP.

Why is it that 3rd parties have little chance? Because what they stand for, conservative values, is not what the so called 'conservatives' want. If they actually supported what they claim to support, then 3rd party would indeed have a chance. We have people like Limbaugh with 20 million listeners willing to do as he says, and when he says "forget the conservative candidate, pull for the Republican", then that is what they do. Sheeple? Oh, yes, very much so. Anyone willing to trash-can their principles so easily is a sheeple.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Brown is definetly a socialist. Read OP.

Why is it that 3rd parties have little chance? Because what they stand for, conservative values, is not what the so called 'conservatives' want. If they actually supported what they claim to support, then 3rd party would indeed have a chance. We have people like Limbaugh with 20 million listeners willing to do as he says, and when he says "forget the conservative candidate, pull for the Republican", then that is what they do. Sheeple? Oh, yes, very much so. Anyone willing to trash-can their principles so easily is a sheeple.
You are definitely blind. Read my previous post and tell me how this man is a socialist. Please, tell me.

Who are you to tell me, a conservative, what my values should be? I agree with Brown on every issue and I am most definitely conservative thankyouverymuch.
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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Rush uses politics, Howard Stern uses sex, Beck uses insanity. They are just out for ratings. The more outrageous the talk, the better the ratings.

I doubt that they even believe all the stuff they are saying.
Yes they are entertaining personalities and the showmanship is needed to get ratings. But they wouldn't be as good at what they do if they faked their belief system. You can tell these guys are sincere and have a lot of passion for what they believe.

In this situation there is nothing outrageous about saying voting for a third party is throwing away your vote. It's the conventional wisdom..
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You are definitely blind. Read my previous post and tell me how this man is a socialist. Please, tell me.

Who are you to tell me, a conservative, what my values should be? I agree with Brown on every issue and I am most definitely conservative thankyouverymuch.
Of course you agree with him. After all he is a Republican and he told you all those good sounding things during this campaign.

Read the OP and look at Brown's voting record, if you are interested in the truth.
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