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The goal of the progressive movement has never been to take away liberty or property, unless you think that's what MLK was trying to do .
Forced taxes has never been a movement spawned by any "progressives" but rather a law, well before the progressive movement even began
It's volunteering for the better of mankind (Hull House, Civil Rights) that only turns into political issues if a politician feels basic rights like that aren't worthy (see Strum Thurmond and Jessie Helms)
Did MLK hold a public office that we're unaware of?
We're talking about PROGRESSIVES in seats of power, who wish to compel others to work for the benefit of another, under threat of punishment. They wish to INCREASE taking to give to another.
That's abuse of power.
If you wish to ignore that aspect of the progressive agenda, fine.
But I call it SLAVERY, a most vile practice.
Progressives, socialists, communists, collectivists, and any who wish to deny the individual his absolute right of ownership, are slavers.
When the "progressives" in power say that taxes are 100% voluntary, and their "progressive" agenda is entirely voluntary, I will cease my objections.
Voluntary charity is a blessing.
Compulsory charity is a curse.
Robbing St Peter to pay St Paul is not moral superiority - but theft.
Policies can stand or fall quite well on their own. Personalities are irrelevant. At various points in time, some very odious people have advocated very sensible policies, while good-natured folks have advanced idiocy.
I'm not even sure what is meant by "progressive movement." You'll have to break that down into individual policies.
At one point in time, the idea that kids should be in school rather than the coal mines was laughed at. That used to be a bleeding-heart "progressive" notion, while nowadays it just seems like common sense. Even though - at the time - some of those who advocated laws against kids in coal mines were open Communists.
Somebody's been watching too much beck. So, tell me how exactly Jane Addams and Jacob Riis compelled other to work for their benefits as slaves? Both were progressives and I've mentioned them at least a dozen times and no one's gotten back to me?
Did Riis take quite a hand in politics or did he just work for some better conditions for poor people? I didn't know he took part in politics.
Did MLK hold a public office that we're unaware of?
No but he was the face of Progressives for about a decade.
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We're talking about PROGRESSIVES in seats of power, who wish to compel others to work for the benefit of another, under threat of punishment. They wish to INCREASE taking to give to another.
Progressives who have been in seats of power: Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson. It's debatable but both are generally considered good presidents and good Americans. I don't see you badmouthing them. And there still has been no proof of threats of punishment. Another boring RW conspiracy.
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If you wish to ignore that aspect of the progressive agenda, fine.
It's not an aspect of progressives. It's a made-up fear tactic by Glenn Beck which holds very little truth.
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But I call it SLAVERY, a most vile practice.
And it was so-called progressives who worked to end slavery in this country. Imagine that
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Progressives, socialists, communists, collectivists, and any who wish to deny the individual his absolute right of ownership, are slavers.
I can't speak for Socialists and Communists but unless you're talking about the right to own slaves, progressives have never stood for denying anyone rights of ownership.
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When the "progressives" in power say that taxes are 100% voluntary, and their "progressive" agenda is entirely voluntary, I will cease my objections.
Taxes have never ever been voluntary. Well before progressives even existed.
And you still never got back to me about how Jacob Riis and Cesar Chavez are the evils you see in progressives.
He's doing his bit to demonize the word "progressive" in your minds, the same way they did with "community," "organize," and "community organizer" last summer.
You guys are so.... pliable!
Were people like la Follette even running on a progressive ticket? Maybe you need to check that out.
Beck keeps asking the White House to call him out on any untruths he puts out and they don't even open their heads. I guess they either agree with him or they are afraid to call him out.
I have to suggest that all here who are not progressives make a point of watching the Glenn Beck show of today. He exposed many of our real progressives of this day and spoke names and places of them. He also said over and over again that not all progressives are Democrats but that they do control the Democrat party. He showed a letter from the Progressives Democrat Caucus of California that was aimed at throwing a Democrat under the bus along with a supporter of her. Why would he do a thing like this? Well now he was trying to prove that not all Democrats are progressives but that the progressives are becoming more and more arrogant in their actions.
Hey, he showed why he says that Obama is one of those people and his people in the White House are getting more and more arrogant. Darn it I guess that shows why many left leaners won't want to see him. Just in case any of you lefties don't watch him to learn why most of you are the bad guys along with me let me tell you that he had over 4,000,000 viewers last Friday. That is about 1 1/2 million more than normal. Think how many people know more about progressivism than did Friday morning and how many more will be watching the rest of this week.
Pay attention to the things that Obama is saying that really point him out as a real progressive. If you don't watch for any other reason do it to see just who Obama appointed to determine how to punish the banks for making money. Get a picture of his circle of progressives that are with him all the time in the White House.
In case you forgot how to see today's show let me suggest that you watch on Glenn Beck Clips 01-22-10 You crap on nobody but yourself if you refuse to watch.
Beck as really got you all lathered up these days about "progs" as you call anyone with any left leaning tendencies. You do relalize that only those that are already under the Beck spell have any interest in what he says, don't you? Nope, didn't forget to watch his show, I make a point of not doing so, besides I have more important things to do, anything, anything at all takes a higher priority.
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Viable tenements.........Yep, I saw what Detroit looks like nowadays...under Dem control.
Have you ever seen a picture of what the Lower East Side looked like before Riis came around? Makes Detroit look like Beverly Hills
Food sanitation? OK....the FDA is doing their job keeping things from gettin eatin.....that shouldn't be...
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Explains why there are sooooo many food recalls too, I 'spose?
Great job, FDA and Consumer Protection Agency.
So, you'd rather eat condemned food?
You wackos really need to cool it with the Beck conspiracy theories. Sad part is none of you would even know what it was if not for Beck.
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