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Old 01-25-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It depends on who you listen to about this. It seems that Valerie Jarrett thinks it is thousands and thousands. Robert Gibbs says it is 1.5 million and The Man, himself says 2 million.

They all got together this weekend and decided to be a bit more aggressive in their talk and these three widely disparate numbers came out of them on Saturday and Sunday. You can hear all of them saying those numbers on Fox whether anyone else has those videos or not.

Think about how those aggressive progressives manage to fail to get together with their numbers. What is going on?
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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They have no clue.

Let me tell them how many jobs were saved.

Answer would be ZERO.

We are 8.5 million jobs in the hole thanks to the job killing machine.

Now watch Obama switch to telling us all how much he cares about jobs and how he can work hard to create millions of jobs.

It took him 1 year and a butt whoopin in Mass to even mention the word jobs.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:18 PM
 
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They are all using the same data, Roy...the ones from the second quarter ARRA Report published on January 13. I guess you missed it...
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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They are all using the same data, Roy...the ones from the second quarter ARRA Report published on January 13. I guess you missed it...
Yet they all report different numbers. Interesting.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Yet they all report different numbers. Interesting.
Sounds like a three stooges bit.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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They are all using the same data, Roy...the ones from the second quarter ARRA Report published on January 13. I guess you missed it...
You say they are using the same numbers and they speak out the distances apart they did? Valerie didn't even have the guts to go to million and stopped at thousands and thousands.

Why have we lost so many jobs since the act was passed? I just can't figure that at all. And they make it worse by spouting all those different numbers. I guess we need to get Biden to speak out.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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It seems only one job was saved by government intevention.... Glen Beck's.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Without an identical planet to use as a "control", it is impossible to say how many jobs were saved with any confidence. People can only guess.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:24 PM
 
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At least 3:

Bob McDonnell
Chris Christie
Scott Brown
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:43 PM
 
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Jeez!!! These numbers are typically estimated in one of two ways -- projections and models. These are run by various public and private sector analysis shops. CEA runs two. CBO runs two. The Fed runs several, but they don't publish regularly, and outfits such as Moody's, IHS Global Insight, Goldman-Sachs, Macroeconomic Advisers, and so on also do such analyses. When all oif these run in the same ballpark, you've got a pretty good idea that the analyses are on track. The two CEA estimates as of Dec 31 were 1.8 and 2.1 million jobs present in the economy that would not have been without the stimulus bill. CBO estimates both the lowest possible and highest possible numbers it thinks it could be. Those are 0.8 million and 2.4 million. The three private sector sources participating in the second quarter report run between 1.1 million and 1.6 million. So what number would you use?
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