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Old 01-29-2010, 10:36 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Ah but doesn't Ken tell us that any job loss is the end of the world?
I do?
Where?

Ken
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Buy a car?
No.

Buy groceries, pay my house payment, do my Christmas shopping, pay down my debts, maybe go out for dinner and movie once and while?

Absolutely!
And ALL of those thing boost the economy and help provide jobs for OTHER people.

Nothing is permanent in life - not even life itself. If you think YOUR current job is guaranteed to be permanent, you are deluded.

Ken

Actually my current job is guaranteed, I am self employed.

All those activities you site do not grow the economy. You simply can't argue that temporary jobs are as valuable in growing an economy than substantial stable jobs.
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:38 PM
 
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Ah but doesn't Ken tell us that any job loss is the end of the world? LOL.

As long as jobs continue to be lost, or really no substantual job growth there isn't progress.
You're starting to sound like a Communist. Are you sure you ain't one? The Communists strive for full employment. Heck, you're even worse than a Communist. While they struggle and wage armed revolution which takes time, you want instant gratification. You want full employment today. There's another term for instant gratification: it's called "jacking off". Why don't you switch to a more salacious website and do your thing so you can get your instant gratification?
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I do?
Where?

Ken

Here you go.

Originally Posted by LordBalfor
LOL - what an ignorant statement.
Somehow I doubt someone who got one of those "temporary jobs" agrees with you that it's "useless". Someone without a job will take what he can get - temporary or not.

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Old 01-29-2010, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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You're starting to sound like a Communist. Are you sure you ain't one? The Communists strive for full employment. Heck, you're even worse than a Communist. While they struggle and wage armed revolution which takes time, you want instant gratification. You want full employment today. There's another term for instant gratification: it's called "jacking off". Why don't you switch to a more salacious website and do your thing so you can get your instant gratification?

Didn't I tell you to go to bed? Does your mommy know you are up this late?
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:41 PM
 
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Actually my current job is guaranteed, I am self employed.

All those activities you site do not grow the economy. You simply can't argue that temporary jobs are as valuable in growing an economy than substantial stable jobs.
THose temporary jobs circulate money into the economy and cause a multiplier effect downstream which create permanent jobs.
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:41 PM
 
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Simply not true.

The top marginal rate under Reagan was 28%

Top US Marginal Income Tax Rates, 1913--2003 (TruthAndPolitics.org)

No we have not come from conservatism run amok. We have come from a credit bubble.
What's going on with you? You just proved my point. Did you even read your own link?

For starters, the little blue line on the graph (indicating top marginal tax rate) is a LOT higher in the 80s than it is today.

If you go to the numbers themselves, you see 69.125%, 50% for 5 years, 38%, 28% for one year.

So, basically you're saying that when the top marginal tax rate was 50% or higher, we had a robust economy. When it dropped to 28%, we hit a recession only 2 years later.

You just seem to undermine your entire argument.
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:42 PM
 
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Actually my current job is guaranteed, I am self employed.

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Does your self employment involve instant gratification? Enjoy.
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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What's going on with you? You just proved my point. Did you even read your own link?

For starters, the little blue line on the graph (indicating top marginal tax rate) is a LOT higher in the 80s than it is today.

If you go to the numbers themselves, you see 69.125%, 50% for 5 years, 38%, 28% for one year.

So, basically you're saying that when the top marginal tax rate was 50% or higher, we had a robust economy. When it dropped to 28%, we hit a recession only 2 years later.

You just seem to undermine your entire argument.

Yikes the top marginal rate was 70% when Reagan took office and 28% when he left. What do you think was the reason for the go go 80's and the economy of the 90s?
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Old 01-29-2010, 10:45 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You simply can't argue that temporary jobs are as valuable in growing an economy than substantial stable jobs.
I NEVER said they were "as valuable in growing an economy than substantial stable jobs" - I denied YOUR assertion that they were "useless".

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Temporary jobs are useless by definition because they go away.
Clearly you need to improve both your reading comprehension AND your memory.

Ken
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