Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-01-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
19,025 posts, read 14,205,095 times
Reputation: 16747

Advertisements

Since 1933, the US Congress has been bankrupt. Of course, since the U.S. government has nothing of value equal to the outstanding debt, the Congress has toiled for generations to pay off that debt - with YOU.

Thanks to FICA / Socialist InSecurity, 305 million Americans are "human resources" (their term!) pledged as collateral (surety) on the profligate U.S. government.

There is NO LAW compelling participation, nor is there any law punishing any American who does not participate. Yet millions BELIEVE that there is a law that compels them to "Get The Number" before they can work in their own country.

It doesn't matter who controls Congress, Demopublicans or Republicrats. Until you cease giving consent, to be THEIR SERF, nothing can change for the better. And that means BHO is a decoy to deflect your attention from the source of the problem - CONGRESS. Remember, the president only executes the laws enacted by Congress.

If you want to invigorate their adrenalin response, write a polite letter to your congresscritters and ask for a copy of the law that compels all Americans in the USA to enroll, and if there is no law, what is the official procedure for volunteering out of Social Security.

The day when 51% of Americans stop consenting, their house of cards will collapse.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-01-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
22,190 posts, read 19,462,661 times
Reputation: 5305
Quote:
Originally Posted by the3Ds View Post
I'm a registered Independent and I felt incredibly hopeful on Obama's inauguration day. I'm not a person who spends a lot of time on these threads because I find them totally useless in having a rational dialogue (that goes for people on both sides of the argument).

I would, however, like to ask those who blame the current Republicans for everything that doesn't get passed in Congress:

Do you understand how the legislative process works? Even with the much heralded Scott Brown victory, Democrats are in control of the legislative process. And by "control" I mean they don't have to ask Republicans for anything...the Republicans can object and vote "no" on every single bill and the Democrats could still pass every single thing they want. Scott Brown's victory only allows the Senate Republicans to filibuster, if they chose. Even if Scott Brown comes on board and votes No on every single issue, the Republicans only have 41 votes...the Senate only needs 51 to pass anything they want.

If you want to yell about not passing health care, not passing cap and trade, not passing whatever issue seems to be your cause du jour, perhaps you should be looking at the Democratic party. They can vote for anything they want and the Republicans can only vote "no". Even if the Republicans vote cohesively, the Democrats in the House and Senate can pass anything they want and they don't even have to have every single person in their party on board. 8 Democratic senators could either not vote or vote "no" and the Democrats could still pass whatever they want in the Senate. The House numbers are even more in favor of the Democrats.

If you have a problem with what's happening in Congress, it seems totally illogical to anyone who knows simple math that you would blame the Republicans. If they're the "party of no"...it doesn't make a single bit of difference...they can vote no and every single thing the Democrats want passed can still be passed.
The problem is the Republicans will filibuster everything. 51 votes is needed to pass legislation (technically 50 with Biden being able to break ties), however the problem is getting to the point of a final vote. Due to the fact the GOP is filibustering everything means that they are blocking a final vote on everything, so to get to the point where the 51 votes are needed to pass legislation is being blocked. Now, Reid should actually really force a true filibuster by making the GOP get up and babble non-stop or go through reconciliation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:51 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top