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View Poll Results: Would you support an Amendment for publicly financed campaigns?
Yes, I would. 29 63.04%
No, I wouldn't. 17 36.96%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-29-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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I have been wondering why Tea Party members and right wingers who have criticized the Prez.for the continued Wall Street bailouts and favoring Wall Street over Main Street have been mostly silent or congratulatory on the SCOTUS ruling last week.

I remember Fox News talking about American patriotism, American sovereignity and independence, going at it alone and not needing the rest of the world and being unAmerican and traitors. Yet even one Justice said foreign corporations have the same rights as American corps.
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So maybe the reason Fox News has not made any noise about this is because they also are under unAmerican influence?

"The Washington Times, Fox News, and other corporations with significant foreign ownership (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100117/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_saudi_alwaleed_news_corp - broken link) already work full-time to turn American public opinion against our own government. "Free trade" advocacy groups with funding from outside our borders work to get us to open our markets to imports that close our factories, outsource our jobs, lower our standard of living and drive us into ever-increasing debt. We have seen this with "grassroots" lobbying on important issues like climate change, trying to make people think that the science is a "hoax": see Grassroots' Opposition to Clean Energy Reform Bankrolled by Foreign Oil, Petro-Governments (http://climateprogress.org/2010/01/13/%E2%80%98grassroots%E2%80%99-opposition-to-clean-energy-reform-bankrolled-by-foreign-oil-petro-governments/ - broken link)."
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And despite the rhetoric over the threat of Islamic fundamentalists and Sharia, Fox News has direct links to the Islamic world.

"The Saudi billionaire whose investment firm is one of the biggest stakeholders in Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. said he is looking to expand his alliances with the media giant, in the latest indication that his appetite for growth remains robust even as his company retrenches.
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world's 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.'s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that "touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.," according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday."

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Perhaps the debate over the validity of global warming has a lot to do with a collusion between multinational fossil fuel companies protecting their industry's profits?

"Meanwhile over here America's big oil and coal companies bought themselves a Presidency and an anti-government ideology and a climate-change-denial industry that has cost us 8 years and counting."
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Could foreign interests government and private alike also have a hand in this?

"In Part II, Who Opposes American Manufacturing? II I wrote about Cato Institute, a conservative “ideological” think tank that opposes manufacturing in America. But they receive funding from interests outside of America – the very interests who do the very kind of fighting for trade policies that the Cato Institute opposes for us.
"WHY would Cato Institute advocate this? Is it just weird libertarian cult ideology? Perhaps a look at who is paying for this advocacy will provide a clue. While mostly funded by individuals, Cato’s funders include many of the usual right-wing funding suspects: Koch, Scaife, tobacco companies, Exxon and other oil companies, Wall Street… But one sponsor jumped out at me: the Korea International Trade Association. (Honda, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Toyota and Volkswagon are sponsors as well.) Dots connected: Cato is receiving funding from the Korea International Trade Association, and then turning around and advocating that American hand over its manufacturing capacity to other countries!
So I checked, and did not find that Cato Institute registered as a “Registered Foreign Agent.” Why not?"
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Could all these play a role in the resistance in creating a clean energy economy in the states?


"These opponents of clean energy reform claim to be “standing up” for American jobs and security. However, according to an investigation by ThinkProgress, many of the lobbyists and right-wing operatives engineering the attacks on clean energy reform either work directly for petro-governments, or work for companies in the business of importing foreign oil:"
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Given all this, would anyone consider an Amendment to make publicly financed campaigns part of our Constitution to help ensure the public interest for natural person American citizens are served.



The 14th Amendment helped ensure voters have a voice in governance and I feel an Amendment making publicly financed campaigns available (but not necessarily mandatory) at all levels of government would even more help ensure the public interest is being served and public servants can devote the time they would otherwise spend campaigning on governing.


 
Old 01-29-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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Bingo!!!!
 
Old 01-29-2010, 08:03 PM
 
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Bingo!!!!
Do I just win a prize?
 
Old 01-29-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I expected something from HuffPo and sure enough we got it. Actually I wonder how much of your first post was from that site.

I voted yes but I meant that only that kind of money can be spent. No outside money at all. REmember the man who said he would take public money in 2008 and then realized that he was going to get so much more through his internet donations about half of which he never told us where they came from.

I want government money, only. That way unions and corporations can't buy candidates so easily and we won't have to worry about who spent the most money. Of course, when reporting time comes at the end of the election the newly elected President will be in charge of the FEC that takes all the reports.
 
Old 01-29-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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I expected something from HuffPo and sure enough we got it. Actually I wonder how much of your first post was from that site.
Yes, its pretty much common knowledge that HuffPo can never be as fair, balanced and nonpartisan as other media outlets.



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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
REmember the man who said he would take public money in 2008 and then realized that he was going to get so much more through his internet donations about half of which he never told us where they came from.
You might want to take a looksie here.

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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
I voted yes but I meant that only that kind of money can be spent. No outside money at all.
I want government money, only. That way unions and corporations can't buy candidates so easily and we won't have to worry about who spent the most money. Of course, when reporting time comes at the end of the election the newly elected President will be in charge of the FEC that takes all the reports.
Then we agree on that point. Virtual handshake. Let me know what you think of this.
 
Old 01-29-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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What moron would vote no? They must be joking. Since the question is a no brainer, I must assume that they even less than no brains.
 
Old 03-24-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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This is why we need an amendment for publicly financed campaigns.

"Members of Congress always say they hate having to spend so much time raising money, but nobody questions the accepted wisdom that it's impossible to win without a huge campaign war chest."
 
Old 03-24-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Its too bad that the congress didn't see the need for Eleventh Amendment to the constitution as proposed by Jefferson/Madison. May be the trickle down to the politicians era had already begun, influencing the final vote on it.
 
Old 03-24-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Government financed campaigns, sounds very Socialist to me. I'm all for it
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