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There were 4 links, bother reading anything except for the one sentence blurb I pulled from the article?
They can, especially if they're xian.
It surprises me that people can't put themselves in the position of the other person, be it these families, the children (don't forge the american child fetishists), an Iraqi mother, etc.
Well Dear, apparently your reading prowess is far superior to mine because you're certainly reading in a lot that I don't see. You must live in a very colorful world.
It looks to me that some entrepreneurs were taking advantage of a business opportunity. What ever could be wrong with that? They were only following the prime dictate of the God of Greed, "Money is where you make it and more is always better and how is irrelevant."
They've shown nothing else.
It doesn't matter what the motivation is, they committed crimes and kidnapped kids.
If you don't know the laws, you don't do what you feel like doing.
If nothing else, they're as stupid as the day is long.
You can't tell me that they didn't have a brain among them?
I for one agree with you 100% and also add that groups like this that swoop in to "help" create more chaos for the professional organizations that do this type of work all the time
From what I've read this is the first time any of them have been to Haiti
this story aggravates me more and more. according the various news sites:
-at least 10 of the 33 are NOT orphans. a couple were crying for their parents and some even knew their home telephone numbers and wanted to call home. one girl was told she was going to a summer camp/boarding school
-the 10 Americans had little/no experience w/ Haiti, international charity work, or international adoption regulations
I still don't understand what the hell they were thinking, if they were thinking at all, which doesn't seem to be the case. regardless of their intentions, what they did was reprehensible. it will now be a lot harder for legit groups w/ good intentions to go in there and help b/c this group did so much wrong.
Sure she was.. a beach front "indoctrination" camp of Southern Baptist beliefs in the Dominican Republic
I agree they absolutely caused more harm then good, taking away from people actually doing some good
Tonight on the news they interviewed a lot of the parents whose children were on that bus. Every single one of them said they had signed permission for the missionairies to take their children because they wanted to get their children out of Haiti and have a chance at a better life. So much for the children being "stolen."
So where are the letters,,hmmmm
that alone does not give permission to move a child across an international border
So where are the letters,,hmmmm
that alone does not give permission to move a child across an international border
No to mention the Haitian people are in the midst of a crisis. Offering to take these children away from their families to a "better life" with "promises of schooling, soccer fields and even a swimming pool" is emotionally manipulative in the extreme. If people really wanted to help these kids then help provide temporary housing, food, clothing, schooling, logistical assistance, and perhaps at a later stage get involved in adoptions for children that have been left orphaned.
Let's face it. You feel contempt for almost everyone. But, that aside, I think these people meant well and thought they were saving the kids. A lot of parents in Haiti are begging Americans to take their kids out of the nightmare and, sad as that is, it does show a parent's love of putting their child's well being ahead of their own.
If you turn your children over to total strangers, to take to god knows where, no paperwork, no hint of documentation, is that really putting the well being of the child first?
No to mention the Haitian people are in the midst of a crisis. Offering to take these children away from their families to a "better life" with "promises of schooling, soccer fields and even a swimming pool" is emotionally manipulative in the extreme. If people really wanted to help these kids then help provide temporary housing, food, clothing, schooling, logistical assistance, and perhaps at a later stage get involved in adoptions for children that have been left orphaned.
Absolutely logical, reasonable, and prudent way to handle the situation. What were those adults from that church THINKING by sending a handful of adults into Haiti to grab children?
I personally have no sympathy for them. If they languish in a Hatian jail for a few weeks maybe they won't be so hasty next time. It's clear they didn't have a clue at real relief work & aid and are now themselves a burden to those who are trying to give real aid & relief.
My knee-jerk reaction to this story was child trafficking. Fact is, we don't know the intentions of these missionaries yet, and to demonize them before knowing all the details is wrong. Missionaries the world over do a lot of good... things that most of us would rather leave "to someone else", and they do this out of the goodness of their hearts. The overwhelming majority of missionaries are good, honest people.
They will be investigated and, if appropriate, charges will be filed. My hope is that this isn't a case of child trafficking.
So we don't knkow the intentions of these *missionaries* yet (would you think the same way regarding anyone else who certainly appeared to be breaking teh law?) and to demonize them before knowing all the details is wrong.Probably correct about demonizing the accused before knowing all the details; however, there may be a bias in such a situation because there surely seem to be many extremely zealot people out there who call themselves *Christians* these days. Why should someone be given more benefit of the doubt simply because they call themselves *Christians*? The behavior of those peopole was very suspect and that seems to be the reason they are in jail at this point. They were possibly very stupid or over zealous or up to something they thought they knew better how to handle than the many other people and aid agencies working in Haiti. That sound arrogant or ignorant or unsavory to me.
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