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You should move to Yemen. Or Iran. Or Afghanistan.
You wrap yourself in the cloak of the Constitution and proclaim that terrorists are your newfound compatriots while forgetting that these bastards are trying to kill you. Does it get any more ignorant than that?
Why don't you go cry from the mountaintops that you want all terrorists tried in your backyard.
Somehow, I doubt we'll see you in the volunteer line. And even moreso, I don't see you signing up to go kill those bastards in their own back yard (ie. joining the miltary). You'd rather gloat that they're your new buddies in constitutional protectorship.
Absolutely disgusting.
Once again, the OP proves that liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.
Episcopalians are Christians and always have been.
Hillsdale College would not be a worthwhile source to turn to for education about the US Constitution.
Those who are in American airspace are in America.
The UCMJ was created by an act of Congress in 1950. As with the product of ANY act of Congress, the UCMJ is IN ITS ENTIRETY subservient to the US Constitution and exists at all only through the provisions of Article 1, Section 8 giving Congress the power to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against the Law of Nations. Proceedings under the UCMJ are ultimately appealable to the US Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces and to the Supreme Court. Due to such special military exigencies as duty and discipline, some conduct that would not be criminal in other circumstances -- such as disobeying a legitimate order from a superior -- can be prosecuted under the UCMJ. The jurisdiction of the UCMJ has been strictly limited -- by the Supreme Court -- such that it applies only to those persons in active military service with respect to matters that are actually and directly related to that military service. The notion that active military personnel are somehow not covered by or not protected by the Constitution is simply ludicrous on its face.
padcrasher seems to ignore the word "Creator" specifically written in the DoI.
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Originally Posted by organick
and you seem to try to push fairy tales onto others as fact and truth. Keep it to yourself. Unless of course you have a bunny that hides colored eggs because that is just a fun game
Once again, you are wrong..
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights
Somebody has been feeding you a line of BS. That...or you're just making stuff up. People don't lose constitutional protections because they join the military. That's hogwash. Where did you get such a silly idea?
Actually they do.. One lose their right to a trial by Jury, their rights against search and seizure, right to a speedy trial, and others..
Again, have you NOT heard of a military trial?
Minnesota Constitutional Law & Civil Rights Persons serving in the military have less protection of their civil rights. Courts use more lenient standards when reviewing actions taken by the United States military because several Supreme Court decisions say that the legal system must give the military broad deference for the military to function. Thus, many actions which would be unconstitutional if taken by private parties or a civilian branch of government are not unconstitutional when taken by the military. This explains why the military is allowed to exclude women from many combat positions, can seize and hold military personnel without extending many of the civil rights protections offered to suspects arrested by state police, and has broad authority to exclude homosexuals from serving their country. Because the courts are usually reluctant to overturn military decisions, civil rights advocates often have to turn to the President, who is commander-in-chief of the military, to change military policy.
I mean seriously, I thought this information was common knowledge..
Somebody has been feeding you a line of BS. That...or you're just making stuff up. People don't lose constitutional protections because they join the military. That's hogwash. Where did you get such a silly idea?
Originally Posted by mossomo: Did we read miranda rights to captured Germans during WWI or WWII?
The OP stated matter of factly that OUR Constitutional Rights apply to everyone. It was my argument that they do not. I used Germany as an example. OP Was Wrong and you substantiated it.
but you used a false example.....Not everyone taken into custody by police is mirandized that happens only if they intend to use questioning in court you don't even realize your rights
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights
funny my creator I call mom and dad. pretty sure science would back up that they created me Unless maybe you were dropped off by a stork? or perhaps your mom was a virgin
you seem to be very good at one thing......thrwoing around political propaganda that suits your side of a story
Don't push your fairy tales here. It's off topic. There is a whole other forum for Bible thumpers to spread their delusions.
It is not off topic, and the word "creator" is in our founding documents, and if that word (referring to God Almighty) is offensive to you, that's just too bad. Get over it.
The "fairy tales" and "delusions" are in your mind only. Just because that is what you believe (and you have every right to your beliefs and opinions) doesn't settle it for everyone. Who are you, to claim you are the final say on the matter?
You obviously have not studied much American History (except perhaps some of the revisionist history that has been taught in the last 40 years or so. That garbage wasn't taught when I studied American History in my grade school or high school years. We actually learned about America's founding, who the founders were, who the Pilgrims were, and what they believed.
You might do well to go back and take a look at real American History. While your at it, read some of what the founders actually wrote. You will begin to find out just how wrong you are, and that you have been lied too (propagandized) by the elitists in the education establishment who have been dictating what will be taught in American public schools for the last half century.
When Americans fail to learn history, we wind up with Presidents like Barack Obama, and we risk losing our liberty. That is what is at stake here. We are about to become a dictatorship. We have people in the Obama administration who admire Mao, praise dictators like Chavez and Castro and others. We have people teaching in our universities who are also radical leftists, Marxists, socialists and communists. These were the people that Barack Obama learned from and admired. Is it any wonder he surrounded himself with them in his administration. What's wrong with this picture?
Considering our founding fathers were not christians, I indeed agree with you.. Only 1 signer of the Declaration of Independence was a catholic (Charles Carroll), the other 55 held other religions with the majority of them, (32) Episcopalian, and only 2 signers of the Constitution were catholic, (Daniel Carroll and Thomsas Fitzsimons).
Signed this agnostic..
pghquest,
how can you say they were not christian, and in the second sentence say 32 were Episcopalian....which is christian
btw episcopalian, was only created in 1775, before that they were anglican
The Church was organized shortly after the American Revolution when it was forced to break with the Church of England on penalty of treason as Church of England clergy were required to swear allegiance to the British monarch, and became, "the first Anglican Province outside the British Isles"
The Episcopal Church, also known as the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America
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