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Originally Posted by momonkey
So how we gonna handle showers? Common showers will be an issue. I understand that leftists could care less about heterosexual male rights, but heterosexual males will not want to shower with the Villiage People after PT anymore than females would want males in their showers.
Go ahead lefties, hit me with the double standard you save for situations like female reporters in male locker rooms.
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You handle showers under the presumption that grown men can clean themselves within reasonable distance to one another without the possibility of rape or erection.
Heterosexual males don't want to do a lot of things in life. Fortunately, in some respects, we live on Planet Earth, not Planet Heterosexual Male, where the expectation of sacrifice for the common good is beholden to us all.
I don't think that it's gay people that you dislike. I don't think that it's "lefties". I think what you seem to represent the fear of is the idea that you have somehow come this way thinking things that may be morally or psychologically wrong. We all have that experience, from left, right and center.
The argument here is that this creates a world in which we are led to believe that sexual-social roles have a spot in the work place. But the interesting thing about this, as we know from, you know, counting, is that the earth-majority is female, not male. So if we *actually* had it your way, if things worked from the preconceived notions and perceptions that we have formed about the sexual peril we put upon ourselves by integrating ourselves into positions with co-workers with separate sexual preferences, then not only would females and males be totally separated in the work force, they females would make up a majority! We'd be more often out of work than them!
Here is the problem with people that say: "But what about all of the situations in which sex may be an issue in the workplace, such as in common area showers or through sexual advances!"
These questions are, in their fundamental basis, prejudice. It doesn't make you prejudice. But the question is. Consider that you have already made a distinction between a gay person and a straight person.
In the work environment, a coworker is a coworker. They are a person. Neither gay nor straight.
So your presumption that someone would act inappropriately in a shower or in a closed environment because they are gay, and thus we need to ban all gays from being in that environment, presupposes that the act is a condition of their gayness, not their personality.
There are good personalities and bad personalities. There are not good people who are straight and bad people that are gay.
You may continue on now with your hypnotism over the idea that I must be shoving copies of the Communist Manifesto up my butt and driving you to a welfare state because I don't believe exactly what it is that you do about the specific perils of sexual preference in the work place. Or some other such thing. But I refuse to accept that because I disagree with you on something I have an assigned place on a plot map -- be it left, or right. And that, that assignment would say anything of substance.
Instead of trying to attack a packaged idea of beliefs (LIBRULS BAD = COMMUNISTS. CONSERVES BAD = FASCISTS), let's try to use some sort of reasonable method of logic to approach the question, instead of assuming you simply must look in an undesirable direction from your political position to be mine.
I repeat: The things that unite us are much more than the things that divide us. Let's work from that instead.
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