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Old 02-05-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You are not special. You are not any more deserving. You have not worked any harder than such people (the reverse is more likely to be true) to get where you are. You just don't want to be bothered with picking up your fair share of the tab. That is all it really boils down to.
Don't want to be bothered with picking up the fair share? Again, what part of earn 22.83% of the the income but pay 40.42% of the income taxes do you not understand?
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:45 AM
 
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That's a start. Now why don't you address the queries I put to you in my posts here.
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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That's a start. Now why don't you address the queries I put to you in my posts here.
The fact is that the top 1% earns 22.83% of the the income but pays 40.42% of the income taxes.

How does that not answer your queries?
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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Don't want to be bothered with picking up the fair share? Again, what part of earn 22.83% of the the income but pay 40.42% of the income taxes do you not understand?
That would be the part that you are and have continuously been unable to explain concerning why tax equity grounds should favor paying taxes according to annual income share instead of current wealth share.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Being in the top 10% sure as hell isn't middle class.

You are not getting it. It may be rich if you live in Missouri it is NOT rich in NJ. It IS upper middle class but NOT RICH.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: In the Axis of Time
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Yeah, because there are only two choices...pure capitalism and pure socialism. That's all you can have, right? There aren't any blends or mixtures in between that combine those things that have worked well from one model with those things that have worked well from aniother. We couldn't possibly create a system that did that, could we...
I said we're heading for socialism. It will most likely turn out as a mix capitalism and socialism.
However this path is a very slippery slope is my point.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You are not getting it. It may be rich if you live in Missouri it is NOT rich in NJ. It IS upper middle class but NOT RICH.
Didn't anyone tell you..upper middle class is now "rich".
You're right up there with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet...ok hand it over right now !!!!
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:05 PM
 
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That would be the part that you are and have continuously been unable to explain concerning why tax equity grounds should favor paying taxes according to annual income share instead of current wealth share.
By law, it's an INCOME tax, not a wealth tax. I've explained that numerous times.

Wealth has been accumulated over time from income that has already been taxed, or will be taxed when withdrawn from tax-deferred investments. To reiterate: already been taxed.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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I said we're heading for socialism. It will most likely turn out as a mix capitalism and socialism. However this path is a very slippery slope is my point.
We've not had anything qualifying as pure capitalism at least since the Sherman Act in 1890, so we have been at one level or another on this slope of yours for quite some time and not slid off it yet. We did come close in the 1930's, but a liberal Democrat saved the day. Indeed, on the strength of the managed capitalism which that gentleman inspired, and as well with the rise of unions at about the same time, the subsequent fifty years or so saw the greatest expansion in the status and well-being of the middle class in our or anyone else's history. Then in or around 1980, we changed course toward the right, and the state of the middle class has been in decline ever since. The lessons to be learned in that should be rather obvious...
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:15 PM
 
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Didn't anyone tell you..upper middle class is now "rich".
You're right up there with Bill Gates and Warren Buffet...ok hand it over right now !!!!

Apparently. Who knew.
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