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Intelligence has already stated that there is evidence that people with almost zero traceable ties to terrorist groups are likely to attack. Likely, they are already here and just pretending to be one of us until the day the blow something up.
Going off to war halfway around the world will do nothing to fix this. The best thing we could have done LONG ago was to quit spending money, time and young soldier's lives in the barbaric parts of the middle east, and instead ramped up our border security and increased security measures as much as possible domestically. When we get hit again, I will lay that blame on both parties for failing to secure our borders and beef up our domestic security against imported and homegrown threats.
Everyone brought before the US judicial system is allowed to have a lawyer even if they cannot afford it. Terrorist or not he is provided representation. That is part of OUR LAW.
I believe this administration would like to end the terrorist threat so we can get these wars over. The previous administration was counting on endless war to keep the warmongers supplied with juicy government contracts.
all of our intelligence agencies are our convinced that we will get hit with another terrorist attack in the next 3-6 months
are you concerned that President Obama is not strong enough to attack them where they are so that they don't attack us on US soil?
should our military commander-in-chief be playing capture the terrorist abroad, or red rover red rover, send another terrorist over?
Your concept of strength is ridiculous and is one reason why we will be attacked. Do you shoot your neighbor because he has a gun and might use it on you? That would be a crime and you'd be in the wrong. Or do you wait until an actual crime has been committed?
A preemptive trigger-happy defense gets everyone in trouble. Might does NOT make right, it makes for bigger responses. The military's incessant search for bigger, swifter, deadlier, and more accurate weaponry proves my point. Where will it end? Where will this imbalanced approach lead us to but a planet of smoke and cinders?
I think you would be wise to consider that "enemies" are in your head. You can choose to not have any or you can think everyone else is one. And so can your enemies... They can do the same thing. Better to encourage a real solution than to apply one with a pitiful track record. THAT is not only courageous, it's logical.
Everyone brought before the US judicial system is allowed to have a lawyer even if they cannot afford it. Terrorist or not he is provided representation. That is part of OUR LAW.
I believe this administration would like to end the terrorist threat so we can get these wars over. The previous administration was counting on endless war to keep the warmongers supplied with juicy government contracts.
Yes, then those contracts went to companies over seas, thus not creating jobs in America. (insert sarcasm here) Global economics, is such a wonderful avenue to travel on...
If everyone brought before the US judicial system is allowed to have a lawyer, then why do we have JAG? Get him a military lawyer, it is a military matter...Civil Rights to the world, where's that constitutional that a person does not have to be a U.S. citizen, but yet, get to have our rights granted to them? (only if the act is commited by an American citizen should those rights be upheld)
He was willing to talk to give up all, then the lawyer showed up and told him shut up. So, how can the Intelligence officials get the information they need to determine how to proceed?
After the fact they see, big mistake, huge. Then they ask, who authorized this guy to have a lawyer...who, what, huh, we don't know...
Now the U.S. is a great place to commit crimes, that even those who do not have U.S. citizenship can, have a lawyer provided for them, they can have most evidence to the crime thrown out of the court room...they can, get a slap on the wrist and told...don't do that any more...
And then we wonder how it is it can get this bad? Oh gees...
China caning of the (American yes?) kid that keyed the car. He didn't get away with it, now people will think twice before messing with China law. But the U.S., hey its a free-for-all. We will apologize to them for making them do it. Why not, it's all our fault. It's always, all our fault, that they can not control themselves.
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Reason: added phrase.
Perhaps the question should be. Does Obama have the wisdom and the fortitude to know who to attack to prevent American casualties?
Attacking is easy, as GWB demonstrated. Kicking the hell out of someone elses Military is easy when you field the best of the best. Picking the right target is where it gets tricky. Picking the right goals and planning the follow through is the challenge. This we should have learned from Vietnam.
I think the biggest challenge for our leaders is knowing when to mind our own business, and knowing when not to get involved.
Why is China an athiest country not the chosen target of muslim terrorists? Their business practices alone should make them a target.
Because they mind their own business. When they deal with others they don't impose their own moral code of conduct. We could learn a thing or two from China in this regard.
I think the biggest thing we can learn from China is how to ignore the PC movement.
Get him a military lawyer, it is a military matter...
Nope, and I'd much prefer that you didn't bestow common criminals the rights and privileges of those fighting in uniform. Where is that stupid "our soldiers don't get lawyers" meme coming from, anyway? Rush, Beck or O'Reilly?
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Civil Rights to the world, where's that constitutional that a person does not have to be a U.S. citizen, but yet, get to have our rights granted to them?
Read the damn 5th Amendment. Ponder the meaning of the word "person".
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(only if the act is commited by an American citizen should those rights be upheld)
Well, you're wrong about that.
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He was willing to talk to give up all, then the lawyer showed up and told him shut up.
You know that - how?
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Then they ask, who authorized this guy to have a lawyer...who, what, huh, we don't know...
Do you really want to live in a country where a government official can decide who gets a lawyer? Are you comfortable with handing that sort of authority to government?
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Now the U.S. is a great place to commit crimes, that even those who do not have U.S. citizenship can, have a lawyer provided for them, they can have most evidence to the crime thrown out of the court room...they can, get a slap on the wrist and told...don't do that any more...
It's called "a country of laws". It's considered a great idea. The other version, where an official got to decide ahead of time who could get trials - that used to take place on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain. With much the same reasoning, I might add. "Surely, comrade, you don't wish for this criminal to use our courts to spread his counter-revolutionary propaganda? Have you considered that this might be a threat to the Motherland? You don't want to appear sympathetic to someone threatening the Motherland, do you?"
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China caning of the (American yes?) kid that keyed the car. He didn't get away with it, now people will think twice before messing with China law.
Singapore. Try to keep up. And notice something, here: The kid got the exact same trial, under the exact same circumstances, that a Singapore citizen would have gotten. Because that's what a lawful nation does.
so judging by the overwhelming responses, Barack O'Bomber isn't as tough as he or his disciples thinks he is
Obama is an elitist, apologizing, Anti-American coward that is unable to stop terrorism at home, as well as unable to curb it abroad. Why he ever was elected to the office of POTUS is beyond me. McCain & Palin would have nuked the Somali pirates and Jihadist terrorists where they eat and sleep by now. America is less safe with Obama as our President.
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