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So church doctrine requiring marriage be between a man and woman only, opposing harvesting embrionic stem cells, and denial of something that goes against the beginning of their religious writings is evil to you?
Because religion stops their agenda in it's tracks.
THIS is why I am not religious. The paranoia, the ignorance, the contradictions, and the irrationality of its followers. Smart people eschew religion and we all know the left side is better educated. The left's "agenda", if there is one, is to get people thinking more clearly. Some people think that's a threat, especially the religious.
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Originally Posted by mackinac81
Hey all,
As a left leaning--yet devout--evangelical christian, I find myself in a very small minority among right wing churchgoers and secular leftists, making me wonder why so many on the left are NOT religious. I'm not necessarily saying that it's bad, but I'm just curious.
Of course we could also ask why so many churchgoers are right wing, but this is aimed more at the liberals on this board. Well, I have to go to work, so I'll check back later. Thanks for responding.
mackinac
I consider myself to be a conservative Christian but do not consider myself to be religious. For me, my faith is all about a personal relationshiop with my savior and religion is all about empty rituals and rites that are meaningless.
1. God is a capitalist, the #1 supporter of the military-industrial complex.
2. God loves money and war.
3. God hates Palestinians. Closes his eyes to everything Israel does.
4. God hates Islam.
5. God hates gays.
6. God hate intellectuals.
7. God hates Arabs.
8. God wants all the above bombed into oblivion.
9. All the violent things that humans do, but what God hates most of all is sex.
Originally posted by Chatteress
I consider myself to be a conservative Christian but do not consider myself to be religious. For me, my faith is all about a personal relationshiop with my savior and religion is all about empty rituals and rites that are meaningless.
That's a good point. I guess by religious I meant having a genuine faith in a higher power (God/Jesus/Allah, whatever). At it's heart, Christianity is more a relationship than a religion.
Originally posted by mhouse2001
THIS is why I am not religious. The paranoia, the ignorance, the contradictions, and the irrationality of its followers. Smart people eschew religion and we all know the left side is better educated. The left's "agenda", if there is one, is to get people thinking more clearly. Some people think that's a threat, especially the religious.
1. Not all religious people are paranoid.
2. Being religious doesn't make you stupid. What an arrogant, smug thing to say.
3. Yes, the left claims more educated people, but that has little to do with religion, IMO.
This is why I'm not secular. The smugness, the "I'm smarter/more enlightened than you" attitude toward the morons who dare to believe in a higher power. Don't start calling people of faith arrogant (as many do) until you get off your high horse, my dear.
I consider myself to be a conservative Christian but do not consider myself to be religious. For me, my faith is all about a personal relationshiop with my savior and religion is all about empty rituals and rites that are meaningless.
Wow! This is like the only post that has truly stayed on topic.
Religion is individual belief, the church is what happens when a group of people are put in charge of people's individual beliefs.
Well, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that they are a hindrance to progress. The only thing that has really changed from that period is that now churches have much less hard power so they can only rely on their ability to reach a large audience with their arguments, and even then they are given a great deal more latitude than others with regard to what constitutes a reasoned argument.
I'm of the persuasion that all religion is irrational, and organised religion specifically is a malady. If they had no power to promote the fruit of their irrational tree, I would view religion as a harmless peculiarity.
It's interesting how the left always claims they are for progress and will spout off all the wonderful things progress has given us yet they are not brave enough to take credit for all of the failures that have been done in the name of progress.
Lobotomy anyone?
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