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Old 02-07-2010, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Anthem Blue Cross Raises Premiums | CommonDreams.org

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"It's all based on this illusion there is a free market in this product. But you can't shop for health care, particularly after you're already sick," he said. "You can't shop for a carrier because there is almost no competition."
Anthem Blue Cross will be raising rates by 39% on March 1st.

Do any of you still want the kind of "system" where your insurer can raise rates at any moment?
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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Anthem Blue Cross will be raising rates by 39% on March 1st.

Do any of you still want the kind of "system" where your insurer can raise rates at any moment?
No one has argued against health insurance reform. However, the package placed in front of Congress was enlarge a disaster waiting to happen. The states do have some control over this as well so why not address those concerns within the states? Is it because the insurance and trail attorney lobbies are among the heaviest donators to those politicians as well?

Power companies across the nation are raising their rates ahead of "cap & trade". Credit card companies have also exponentially raised interest rates just ahead of the effective date of the new regualtions placed upon them by the Obama administration.

Perhaps what you are really seeing is the reaction of the private markets to the threat of government regulation. They see the writing on the wall and are trying to make money before they are taken over by an evergrowing, ever power-hungary central government.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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breaking news! you can drop your carrier and get another one if they go all crazy like that. It just happened at my company and bam! they were gone and replaced with another one.
I love people that think the corporation is actually in control...
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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breaking news! you can drop your carrier and get another one if they go all crazy like that. It just happened at my company and bam! they were gone and replaced with another one.
I love people that think the corporation is actually in control...
That's because you're with a group. Of course it's easy for a corporation to change who they have their health insurance with.
It's very hard to switch insurers when you have an individual policy and have all these "pre-existing conditions." It seems like being born is a pre-existing condition to these people.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No one has argued against health insurance reform. However, the package placed in front of Congress was enlarge a disaster waiting to happen. The states do have some control over this as well so why not address those concerns within the states? Is it because the insurance and trail attorney lobbies are among the heaviest donators to those politicians as well?

Power companies across the nation are raising their rates ahead of "cap & trade". Credit card companies have also exponentially raised interest rates just ahead of the effective date of the new regualtions placed upon them by the Obama administration.

Perhaps what you are really seeing is the reaction of the private markets to the threat of government regulation. They see the writing on the wall and are trying to make money before they are taken over by an evergrowing, ever power-hungary central government.
Power companies are raising rates because they want to. No one is forcing them to raise rates and "cap and trade" is pretty much dead in the water.

Nah, I think they're trying to make money because they're greedy. Instead of being happy with 100 million, they want 250 million and once they get that, they'll want more.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Anthem Blue Cross will be raising rates by 39% on March 1st.

Do any of you still want the kind of "system" where your insurer can raise rates at any moment?
Competition. If the members had the option of going outside the state for insurance, the provider would be up the creek when their membership plummeted.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Anthem Blue Cross will be raising rates by 39% on March 1st.

Do any of you still want the kind of "system" where your insurer can raise rates at any moment?
Insurance companies alowed to compete across state lines would do wonders in situations like these.
Sorrry,I know it takes away your first choice of having more government in your life.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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Power companies are raising rates because they want to. No one is forcing them to raise rates and "cap and trade" is pretty much dead in the water.

Nah, I think they're trying to make money because they're greedy. Instead of being happy with 100 million, they want 250 million and once they get that, they'll want more.
And you really believe the Federal government and the Obama administration specifically keeps taking over private industry out of some motivation other than greed? Please!

Every company raises rates "because it wants to" for a variety of reasons. Cap & Trade along with "Health-care control" are the major mechanisms through which this government can raise the tax revenue it needs for its aggessive planned expansion of an entitlement society.

These proposed agendas and the revenues they are projected to collect are a central pillar in Obama's 2010 budget. So either Obama's budget is pure fantasy based on bad fiction or these agendas are not yet dead. You cannot have it both ways.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Credit card companies have also exponentially raised interest rates just ahead of the effective date of the new regualtions placed upon them by the Obama administration.
There is no basis to bash Obama on this. The Credit CARD Act of 2009 was originally introduced in the 110th Congress (before Obama) and was reintroduced & passed in the 111th Congress with strong bi-partisan support (90 to 5 in the Senate and 361 to 64 in the House).
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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My electric rates went from .05/KWH to .12/KWH overnight a couple years ago. My oil heat went from $180 to $350/month then back down to $180 last year. My sewer rates are going to increase 50% in December.
Businesses raise prices to maintain their existence. Blue Cross are non-profits so they are required to cover their expenses. They don't have shareholders to answer to but the individual state insurance commissions require them to be solvent. If they are not you have the situation of DC a number of years ago where the Blue Cross goes bankrupt, people lose their coverage, and they are finally absorbed by the ones in the neighboring states.
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