We had eight years of Bush and Cheney. Now you get mad ! (enemies, lawyer)

[wdavid002]

People who obsess about the past..are too bitter to see what is happening in the present...and too busy to do anything that will change the future..

[Buckhorn]

Originally Posted by wdavid002

People who obsess about the past..are too bitter to see what is happening in the present...and too busy to do anything that will change the future..

If we don't know where we came from, how do we know where we're going?

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Buckhorn

Clinton's wiretapping was perfectly consistent with FISA requirements namely warrants were secured where domestic wiretapping was involved.. I.e., he did not break the law like Bush did.

I think you should read my post again.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Fleet

I changed my mind... THIS is the most ridiculous thread of the year (or decade).
Most inaccurate, too.

Interesting... someone commented (in the rep section) that I "refuse to see the truth." That applies to the OP, because he posted one error after another. Of course, no name was given.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Fleet

Interesting... someone commented (in the rep section) that I "refuse to see the truth." That applies to the OP, because he posted one error after another. Of course, no name was given.

I miss the negative feedbacks from people who disagreed with me.. They were almost like getting a new Boy Scout badge..

[Peggy Anne]

riled righties..in their tighty whiteys.....hahahahaha

[puglywump]

Originally Posted by Kerby W-R

We had eight years of Bush and Cheney. Now you get mad !

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President..

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got ousted.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said
illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq .

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.

You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America
deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,
corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all
okay with you, but helping other Americans... oh hell no.

Rep to you and bravo! I cannot stand republicans.

[wjtwet]

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President..

why are you mad that the law as follwed and affirmed by the SC
No recount since then ever showed gore won
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.
You get mad but have a blindless claim

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got ousted.
Already had been outed and she was no longer undercover, Libby goes to jail and he did not out her. they knew who outed her when they interviewed Libby. Why are you mad that a guy who did not out her ended up in court and convicted

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
why are you mad that the president with congress tried to protect the country

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
Authorization of forced passed by our congress and UN resolutions. yet you blindly claim it was illegal. You are mad because we did not sit on out butts and wait to get hit again

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said
illegal war.
War was not illegal so your making a false claim. saying it was ilelgal does not make it so
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq .
Iraq is now a free democracy were we Bette off with Saddam Were the Iraq people better off with Saddam Why are you so mad that there is a democracy in the middle east?

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You did not get mad when we were not hit with another attack on our soil

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
Was not illegal and why are terrorists calling you??
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
Obama said he would and we have not and yoru still not mad

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
Who did not get mad . i beleive both parties showed anger and the people

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.
did you get mad and Blanco and the mayor. Did you get mad at Nagal for allowing those busses to sit there and get drowned. Did you get mad when Blanc delayed asking for federal assistance

You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.
Did you get mad whne everyone across the board got a tax break and Tax revenues and the economy went wild


You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
Are you mad the next years deficit is 1.9 trillion of rone year and we are rasing our debt ceiling every 3 months and we keep spending liek drunken sailors

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America
deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,
corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all
okay with you, but helping other Americans... oh hell no.

everyone already can see a doctor. the constitution does not make it a right to see a doctor, so there is no such right. However walk in the emergency room you already can see a doctor. War was not illegal are you mad with Obama lies? Ar you mad at the current corruption. Are you mad that we have spent 1.9 trillion dollar deficit for and nothing is getting better. rich are still rich and the poor are getting poorer because there are no jobs.
your mad because we are not a full socialist republic yet
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[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Buckhorn

Clinton didn't violate FISA, Obama didn't violate FISA.

Only Bush ordered warrantless wiretaps of domestice communications...a felony violation of the FISA statute.

oh I get it, newposter 'buckhorn'

only bush violated, yet clinton and obama were/are saints

sure





Bomb Iraq?
Mises Daily: Thursday, November 12, 1998 by John Basil Utley

-snip-
One of the first casualties will be our own freedoms, as the government chases threats of terrorism here. Already the FBI was just legislated "emergency" warrantless wiretap authority to cover whole regions. Two years ago the Clinton Crime Bill (supported by the Republican leadership) gutting the 4th Amendment which prohibits warrantless searches of private homes.

Yet America's Secretary of State explained that "yes, we think the price is worth it" when asked on CBS 60 Minutes program (5/11/96) if maintaining the blockade was worth the death of half a million children.

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April 1993
The Clinton Administration unveils the "Clipper Chip," an encryption chip developed by the National Security Agency, and proposes legislation mandating its incorporation into all encryption products, giving the government access to all encrypted messages.

February 1994
The White House announces the adoption of the Clipper Chip. Attorney General announces that two U.S. Government entities will hold the escrowed key components. The Department of State issues its International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), designating cryptographic systems and software as "munitions" requiring a license before they can be imported or exported.

October 1994
President Clinton signs into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), also called the National Wiretap Plan, or digital telephony, requiring telecommunications carriers to ensure that all of their equipment is wiretap-friendly. The industry goes along with the legislation only after the Administration pledges to seek $500 million from Congress to fund the program.

October 1995
The FBI files notice in the Federal Registry seeking the authority under CALEA to simultaneously monitor one out of every 100 telephone lines in "high crime areas" of the country, representing a 1,000-fold increase over previous levels of surveillance.

October 1996
Vice President Gore announces the Administration's intention to liberalize export controls for commercial encryption products for up to two years, but only if industry commits to build and market products that support key recovery.

Cryptographer Daniel Bernstein files suit against the State Department asking that the export control laws be struck down on First Amendment grounds.

November 1997
ACLU and other civil liberties groups petition the Federal Communications Commission to reconsider and put an end to the FBI's plans for expanded wiretapping capabilities under CALEA.

The Clinton Administration's anti-privacy position
The Clinton Administration has consistently ignored the privacy rights of all Americans against unauthorized interception or surveillance. Its public statements, regulations, legislative proposals and litigation positions all support significant curbs on the private sector's ability to use cryptography to protect electronic privacy.

---this is straight from the ACLu-----http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/big-brother-wires-wiretapping-digital-age

game, set, and match

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by puglywump

Rep to you and bravo! I cannot stand republicans.

Rep for what? A wildly inaccurate post?