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Old 02-09-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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I believe you, but...

Has it ever effected your job?
Getting into a lease?
Given a nice tip as a server?

Otherwise do you think being white in America would ever hurt your prosperity compared to another race?
My job? I started working at McDonalds, and worked myself up. Last I checked McDonalds has blacks working for them..

Getting into a lease? I've never signed a lease as a tenant, but I've rented to hundreds of minorities over the years when I used to rent out apartments...

Given a nice tip, cant relate, never worked on tips..

Hurt being white? I live in an area surrounded by minorities. Luckily I work from home and am self employed because there isnt a chance in hell I could go to work and find a job up the road in the areas where 95%+ are black..
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:42 AM
 
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Cry me a river, dude!

I can't tell YOU how many times I've been in "rich" white areas and received hostile stares from whites, as if to let me know I don't belong there.
Wow.. you think hostile stares are worse than being attacked and put into the hospital. No wonder you are complaining..
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See, the difference between you and I, is that you, as a white male, don't HAVE to go predominately black areas. Afterall, black areas are largely poorand not the center of business activity in most metropolitan areas.

Heavily white areas, which tend to have higher incomes, often are. So, blacks often HAVE to go into areas which are predominately white in day-to-day business dealings, whereas whites DO NOT have to go into predominately black areas.
Wooo.. more racism coming out..

I dont have to go to areas that are predominately black, woo hoo.. So now its a choice to go into these areas and I should expect a quick visit to the hospital afterwards. I got ya..
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And tell me how, blacks, who collectively make up 12% of the population, can "treat whites like crap". Sure, they can beat you up, but blacks have neither the economic or political power to hinder or oppress any white person the way whites systematically hindered and oppressed blacks.

This is because whites are the majority and control the majority of wealth, power, and influence in this country.
The 6 thugs in your story going to jail for committing crimes also didnt hinder or oppress blacks, neither have I.. So I'm not sure what you are babbling about..
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Oakland
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So black people are allowed to treat whites like crap because they are not the dominant group in america? Seriously, give it a rest because as a white male, engaged to a black female and who has two adopted black children, I can tell you some stories about how I have been attacked for simply being white and 'in the wrong neighborhood" with her.

Sociology means nothing from 500 years ago.. If you use what happened to your family 10 generations ago as an excuse for failure or as if this gives you permission to treat whites to 'get even", then you indeed need to re-examine your own failures and have no one else to blame but yourself.
It's pretty sad you claim to have a Black fiance and have no idea about race relations in the US. I actually don't believe you after you posted that BS. LOL at sociology means nothing from 500 years ago WTF
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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And tell me how, blacks, who collectively make up 12% of the population, can "treat whites like crap". Sure, they can beat you up, but blacks have neither the economic or political power to hinder or oppress any white person the way whites systematically hindered and oppressed blacks.

Stop whining because it will get you no where. Talk to Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Colin Powell, Condolleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Roland Burris, and all of the successful performers who are black. I'm sure most of them will tell you it's your attitude that matters most.

For 12% of the population I'd say African-Americans are pretty influential (and btw Virginia was the first state to elect a black governor)
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Oakland
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I think you're just grasping now. In reality, the two wouldn't even have the same opportunities to begin with.

Turn the situation around: say the two were on Rodeo drive, the black kid in a suit and the white kid in sweats. The white kid would get the suspicious stares because he's dressed like a "grub".

BTW, in nearby Detroit, whites get targeted and pulled over in certain parts of the city all of the time, yet no one is crying racism over that.
LOL again, why are whites hanging out in the Ghetto of Detroit if not for buying drugs which is pretty normal. I wasn't aware of the long history of police brutality and murder in the white community.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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The 6 thugs in your story going to jail for committing crimes also didnt hinder or oppress blacks, neither have I.. So I'm not sure what you are babbling about..
Not to mention, if the poster actually looked into the story, he/she would find out that not all of the criminals are white kids.

Or are we now referring to Koreans as white people?
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Oakland
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My job? I started working at McDonalds, and worked myself up. Last I checked McDonalds has blacks working for them..

Getting into a lease? I've never signed a lease as a tenant, but I've rented to hundreds of minorities over the years when I used to rent out apartments...

Given a nice tip, cant relate, never worked on tips..

Hurt being white? I live in an area surrounded by minorities. Luckily I work from home and am self employed because there isnt a chance in hell I could go to work and find a job up the road in the areas where 95%+ are black..
Some Whites will never understand.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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Stop whining because it will get you no where. Talk to Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Colin Powell, Condolleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Roland Burris, and all of the successful performers who are black. I'm sure most of them will tell you it's your attitude that matters most.

For 12% of the population I'd say African-Americans are pretty influential (and btw Virginia was the first state to elect a black governor)
How is accurately stating history "whining"? Just because it's an embarrassing history that we all wish to forget doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The fact of the matter is that, before 1965, blacks were largely the victims of discrimination, both institutionalized, and blatant, at the hands of whites.

A few examples of successful blacks doesn't negate this reality.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Oakland
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Stop whining because it will get you no where. Talk to Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Colin Powell, Condolleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, Roland Burris, and all of the successful performers who are black. I'm sure most of them will tell you it's your attitude that matters most.

For 12% of the population I'd say African-Americans are pretty influential (and btw Virginia was the first state to elect a black governor)
Oprah has been harassed for being Black. Nobody cares how rich she is. I guess you missed out when she was not let into the store in Paris. All those you named acknowledge and know about white privilege and racism. Money does not magically take away racism.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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How is accurately stating history "whining"? Just because it's an embarrassing history that we all wish to forget doesn't mean it didn't happen.

The fact of the matter is that, before 1965, blacks were largely the victims of discrimination, both institutionalized, and blatant, at the hands of whites.

A few examples of successful blacks doesn't negate this reality.
I was born in 1989 so I had no part of that. You said you are 24 so you were born in the 80s too. It is time to move forward my friend.

And btw, I only listed a short list of successful CURRENT black politicians - I could list many more, trust me.
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