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"But such research is fraught with uncertainty, and it could not rule out that the findings were the result of changes that occurred in response to experiences and behaviors, rather than being inborn."
Did you not see the word MAY in the UCLA study? All inconclusive.
Look at my post above. It is the consensus among the scientific community that the differences in brain scans between homosexuals and heterosexuals may be due to gay lifestyle itself.
It has been stated over and over again that the brain scan differences is probably due to the gay LIFESTYLE.
Probably? Where did the article say "probably"? It said it can't rule out that the findings were the results of changes that occurred in response to experiences and behavior; that's quite different from saying "probably".
It is the consensus among the scientific community that the differences in brain scans between homosexuals and heterosexuals may be due to gay lifestyle itself.
There's not a consensus at all. As you rightly said earlier, the findings are inconclusive. That would mean it's the opposite of a consensus.
I read the same thing...that specifically in LeVay's research, the differences in the homosexual brains and the heterosexual brains could have been attributed to the testosterone decrease in its homosexual subjects. Allegedly all 19 of the homosexual subjects died of AIDS which affects some sort of testosterone production...IDK...Just something I had read.
Basically, as another poster stated the differences in brain structures could have been attributed to complications from AIDS...keywords: "could have"
Oh that is a bunch of BS. Of course you would love your daughter the same. However, you would not be pleased, as that path would be very difficult and make the life of your child alot more rocky. Tell me you would like to have your child experience the difficulties associated with that lifestyle.
I have heard from parents that have a homosexual child have marched with the child at gay pride events and are active members of PFLAG. In addition some of the biggest groups calling for gay marriage is the parents of gays and lesbians, such as PFLAG. Some parents have also stated that their lives have been better, and stated that they refer their child to be homosexual than straight as they have seen more positive changes in the child since comming out than if the child was in denial of their sexuality.
If the child was living in denial and trying to be straight then they are not happy, and in many cases they try to commit suicide because of it.
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I partially agree. The part I don't necessarily agree with is the deviant part. I am not going to say why because then I will get bombarded by (supposedly) open-minded people calling me a "bigot."
What you need to keep in mind is that the absolute flaming, in-your-face gay people that the news covers are not representative of the gay population.
In fact, most of the gay people I know, and I know quite a few, are disgusted and appalled by them, both for their behavior and the impact it has on the fight for equal rights.
Most of the gay people I know, one would never know that they are gay. It's not that they try and hide it, it's just a normal part of who they are. The neither feel the need to hide or flaunt it.
Also of note is that every single one of them, to a person, has said they were born that way. Every single one. From the earliest they can remember, they never had any real attraction to the opposite sex. And I worked at a Starbucks in the gay area of town for a year (which was also the best one I worked at with the most pleasant clientele). I met a lot of gay people, and being one of the few straight people around, we had some interesting and candid conversations.
Any gay people feel free to correct me if they think I am wrong, but it seems that most gay people can no more help their sexual orientation than I can help the fact that I prefer blondes over redheads. And none of them are in any way, shape, or form, "deviant". The only difference between them and you or me is that we are attracted to the opposite sex and they are attracted to the same sex.
In my view by the time one's children become adult, they should move out regardless of being straight, homosexual, bisexual, etc. I just kick their butts out of my house to give them the opportunity to learn how to take care of themselves.
Any gay people feel free to correct me if they think I am wrong, but it seems that most gay people can no more help their sexual orientation than I can help the fact that I prefer blondes over redheads.
You are correct. From a recent story about the challenge to Prop. 8 in California:
"... 95 percent of the self-identified gay men in a study he conducted, and 80 to 90 percent of the lesbians, believed they had little or no choice in their sexual orientation."
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