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Old 07-09-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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tax all products un-nutritiously high in processed sugar, sodium, fructose corn syrup; tax McDonald's, Dominoes, BK and all the fast food chains; slap a big fat juicy tax on the firearms industry; and for good measure the producers and users of pollutants in our environment.

Cost of universal health care solved.

There is another glaring example that the myth of capitalism and free markets is really a sham.

This industry is actually oligopoly that begs for and receives government bailouts. Why doesn't any scream and shout about these corporate welfare queens milking the system out of tax payer money?

There shenanigans have a direct impact on the nation's health.

Those that make statements about national security should investigate the posted links.
oh please, when you tax something, you get less of it, and thus tax revenues go down.

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I think I'm going to make a fat dripping 8 oz. cheeseburger for dinner.
a 1/2 pound burger? really? is that all? come on rookie, add to that another 1/2lb patty, two thick slices of cheese, and a 1/2 pound of bacon. put that between two grilled cheese sandwiches and call it a meal.

 
Old 07-09-2010, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Tax everyone and everything, including the dead.
The Vatican did this with some success during the crusades.
Well, if the dead are going to vote the may as well pay taxes.

Lawlessness at the DOJ: Voting Section Told Not To Enforce Purging the Dead or Ineligible from Voting Rolls
 
Old 07-09-2010, 08:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kovert View Post
tax all products un-nutritiously high in processed sugar, sodium, fructose corn syrup; tax McDonald's, Dominoes, BK and all the fast food chains; slap a big fat juicy tax on the firearms industry; and for good measure the producers and users of pollutants in our environment.

Cost of universal health care solved.

There is another glaring example that the myth of capitalism and free markets is really a sham.

This industry is actually oligopoly that begs for and receives government bailouts. Why doesn't any scream and shout about these corporate welfare queens milking the system out of tax payer money?

There shenanigans have a direct impact on the nation's health.

Those that make statements about national security should investigate the posted links.
LOL, your post is so funny.
Well, because everybody would go out of business and NOBODY would have a job.
How will that healthcare be working out for you then?
No JOBS, no MONEY, no healthcare, PERIOD..............
 
Old 07-10-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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Some more Agra News.

"But I was impressed and inspired by the presentations from a variety of innovators: Midwestern Bio Ag, Terra Green Biologics, and Marrone Bio Innovations, who've found environmentally safe ways to boost soil fertility and control pests; City Fresh Foods, Peoples' Community Market, and Home Town Farms, who are improving their communities' access to fresh, healthy food; and Farmland LP and the Carrot Project, dedicated to fostering the growth of sustainably farmed land. And as a dedicated DIYer, I was delighted to learn about a totally non-toxic but super durable varnish from Vermont Natural Coatings that is made from whey, a by-product of the local cheese industry.

Together, these trail blazers, among others, made a compelling case that nurturing the kinds of small, regionally based businesses that they exemplify could not only create jobs and revitalize our economy, but also address
what Bill McKibben called our "social deficit...the ecological and psychic wounds that we've inflicted on ourselves."


As McKibben noted, anything that's "too big to fail" is, by definition, too big, period. That goes not only for our financial system, but every other system we rely on, including our food and energy systems."
 
Old 07-10-2010, 04:40 PM
 
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Why is the liberal solution for everything to TAX the masses and hand over entitlements to the few?

Strange, isn't it?

Tax and spend, tax and spend. How about cutting spending? Libs presume that the income and labor of individuals is first the property of the government, not the property of the people.
 
Old 07-10-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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Strange, isn't it?

Tax and spend, tax and spend. How about cutting spending? Libs presume that the income and labor of individuals is first the property of the government, not the property of the people.
Funny, you keep crying cut spending, lower taxes, but yet you fail to realize I'm arguing for the same.

Stop giving tax payer fueled subsidies and bailouts and other goodies to oligarchic, anti-competition corporate entities.

Its funny how when guys like you only scream and shout socialism and the like when it comes to middle income and working people yet the silence is deafening when the TBTFs make off like bandits with tax payer money.
 
Old 07-12-2010, 06:25 PM
 
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Big Agra seems to be getting a lot of attention lately.

"Indeed, the massive consolidation of agricultural food companies into giant transnational corporations may well trace its origins to Nixon's Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz, whose prime directive was to develop a plan to keep U.S. food prices at a reliably low level. With the recent decision of the Department of Justice to investigate the mounting evidence of over-consolidation of the food industry, it seems fair to ask whether the pendulum of centralization, maximization of production, monoculture industrial farming, and the existence of mega-farms (technically referred to as CAFO's), has shifted the pendulum too far."
 
Old 07-12-2010, 06:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kovert View Post
tax all products un-nutritiously high in processed sugar, sodium, fructose corn syrup; tax McDonald's, Dominoes, BK and all the fast food chains; slap a big fat juicy tax on the firearms industry; and for good measure the producers and users of pollutants in our environment.

Cost of universal health care solved.

There is another glaring example that the myth of capitalism and free markets is really a sham.

This industry is actually oligopoly that begs for and receives government bailouts. Why doesn't any scream and shout about these corporate welfare queens milking the system out of tax payer money?

There shenanigans have a direct impact on the nation's health.

Those that make statements about national security should investigate the posted links.

Sure lets start at your house. We can TAX THAT BATH TUB, THE SOAP too because you might slip and fall and be hurt so bad you end up in the vegii section of the hosptial. Lets TAX your tooth brush and ever drinking glass in the hose too since you might choke and get hurt using these simple objects.

We should tax the new carpet since it is full of chemicals known by the state of California to cause cancer. Each trash bag also contains these chemicals so we can TAX each one when you buy it and when you throw it out.

Lets put a very highTAX on all vehicals since they cause all sorts of harm to the air, water and other people every day, far more than guns ever did in all time. And yet another big TAX to junk it.

Why I think if you let me come to your house to access I can probably tax you dead broke and living in the street.

No thanks No more new taxes.

Oh well I almost forgot the cell phone black berry TAX. These should be taxed hard new and again to trash, not to mention the damage they do in use.
 
Old 07-12-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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Leave it to Denny to find a way to cut tax payer subsidies to TBTF oligopolies.

"Taxpayers are effectively subsidizing the spread of the obesity epidemic, Kucinich says, since under current federal law marketing expenses for the junk- and fast-food industries are tax-deductible. The legislation offers an easy win for increasingly hysterical deficit hawks, and would provide much-needed funds for Democrats looking to pass more aid programs, such as renewed unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless.

"I commend the First Lady for her dedication to stopping the epidemic of childhood obesity and for shedding light on the problem of food marketing to children," Kucinich wrote in a letter to colleagues. His measure, HR 4310, would prohibit any company from claiming a tax deduction for expenses derived from advertising to children any fast food or food of limited nutritional value. He cites a study suggesting that eliminating the federal subsidies of food advertising directed at youth could significantly reduce obesity rates."
 
Old 07-12-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Leave it to Denny to find a way to cut tax payer subsidies to TBTF oligopolies.

"Taxpayers are effectively subsidizing the spread of the obesity epidemic, Kucinich says, since under current federal law marketing expenses for the junk- and fast-food industries are tax-deductible. The legislation offers an easy win for increasingly hysterical deficit hawks, and would provide much-needed funds for Democrats looking to pass more aid programs, such as renewed unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless.

"I commend the First Lady for her dedication to stopping the epidemic of childhood obesity and for shedding light on the problem of food marketing to children," Kucinich wrote in a letter to colleagues. His measure, HR 4310, would prohibit any company from claiming a tax deduction for expenses derived from advertising to children any fast food or food of limited nutritional value. He cites a study suggesting that eliminating the federal subsidies of food advertising directed at youth could significantly reduce obesity rates."
It's not food advertising that contains the calories. It's the food itself!

Their energy would be better spent on cleaning up the ingredients in all our foods - start with high fructose corn syrup. Tax the he*ll out of anything with high fructose corn syrup (by that name and any other substitute term the manufacturers get away with), and it will disappear from the problematic foods consumed by both children and adults. That alone will lessen the harm to health. That's just for starters.
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