Europe 2029

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by Bob The Builder

Laura,
Thanks. From reading through this thread, one side says the OP is spreading hate against muslims and then you post this article that calls the other side a hate preacher that is pro-muslim. We all need to be able to discuss a situation without a knee jerk you're a hater response.

Because most of the Muslim immigrants to Europe, simply want to be left alone. There are some radical elements growing there, and the only reason their numbers are growing,

IS BECAUSE OF OUR STUPID FOREIGN POLICY.

There was a reason why Reagen said "We don't negotiate with terrorists". (Even though he did).

Its because giving them any attention at all, emboldens them. The ideal thing to do with terrorists, is to ignore them. Ever hear your parents say about a bully "if you ignore them, they'll leave you alone" or "They are only doing it to get a rise out of you". Thats what terrorism is, at its base, trying to get a rise out of people.

Now, I'm not saying we just walk by a bombing, and pay it no attention. No, the police are perfectly capable of dealing with terrorism, finding their suppliers, and cutting off of funds. We don't need to go to war for a terrorist act, we don't need to pass a bunch of stupid laws and executive acts everytime a terrorist tries to do something stupid.

Also, all of this "hate" talk, sets up a "me vs. you" mentality in the Muslim world. Want to know why we don't invade Iran? Its because most of the people there, actually agree with us. Iran is one of the most western Muslim countries in the world. If we invade, it will ban the moderates, with the radicals against us. The same thing is happening around the world. The more ignorant people group all Muslims into the same group, the more it will drive moderate normal Muslims, towards the radical terrorist wings. This is why their numbers are growing.

They are growing because we are ignorant, and we can't see that a pin prick, isn't worth dropping an anvil on someones head.

[TrueIsraelite]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

If you google the title of this video, you'll see it is heavily advertised by Stormfront, which is a bittely racist organization.

StormFront is not an organization it is a forum. Get your facts straight.

[Minato ku]

But iut is a racist forum.

Most muslims in France are french and almost live like any other french.
They buy baguette, eat halal foie gras... and they are secular.
The large majority of muslims women don't even wear veil in France.

The youth who riot against the cops in some district are not immigrant but french born, (the few that are immigrant moved in France when they were baby).
Maybe that majority of them are muslims but not only. It is more a racial/social problem than a religious one.

France is a very secular country, french musulms are as their country more secular than other european muslims.
We will never see Sharia in France, excepted islamic banking.

[reconmark]

I think it's pretty ironic that the movie they're ripping off (Children of Men) in order to show their video of the future, has a black woman as the savior of the human race.

Funny they seemed to have left that part of the movie out.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by DressageGirl

This statement right here shows your true ignorance of Europe. Have you even ever been to France?

yes I have been to france, and lived in europe most of my life growing up.

[zuendel]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

yes I have been to france, and lived in europe most of my life growing up.

Really? Where?

(not trying to polarize here, genuinely interested)