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How is trying to get Beck off the air any different than the far right trying to get Obama run out of office at any cost? They think Obama is trying to "destroy America" and the far left thinks that the likes of Beck and Rush are destroying America with their misinformation and scare tactics. Just like capitalists have a right to sponsor their shows, the left has a right to boycott those sponsors. That's freedom.
Would you mind linking any information you have found of funds used to 'run' Obama out of office?...I need understanding of what you mean by what I bolded above - because right now it doesnt make much sense to me.
So how do you feel about someone that you think is "just an entainer" MAKING hussein obama get rid of a few of the radicals he chose for his administration? Are you not embarrassed for the left's messiah hussein obama?
It's not me that thinks Glen Beck is just an entertainer, it's the left wingers. I think it's great that Beck could MAKE hussein obama get rid of a few of his thugs. I am both embarrassed for the left and their messiah hussein obama. H*ll I am embarrassed for America that could elect someone like hussein obama who has spent his life with criminals, thugs, racists and communists.
For the record, we've had "czars" for a long time now. Bush had a lot. Only now has someone tried to convince their ignorant followers that having people in charge of things is a new "socialist" concept.
And no (for you Beck followers), no one proposed sterilizing the population through the drinking water, or forcing abortions, or anything remotely close to that.
You are misinformed. Hot Button - Washington Times
John Holdren did back in 1977. He has denied this belief today though.
You are misinformed. Hot Button - Washington Times
John Holdren did back in 1977. He has denied this belief today though.
I'm misinformed?
Did you read the politifact story? It thoroughly debunks Beck's claim.
But with regard to Beck's claim that Holdren "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population," the text of the book clearly does not support that. We think a thorough reading shows that these were ideas presented as approaches that had been discussed. They were not posed as suggestions or proposals. In fact, the authors make clear that they did not support coercive means of population control. Certainly, nowhere in the book do the authors advocate for forced abortions.
Some have argued that Holdren's view of the imminent and grave global dangers posed by overpopulation should provide pause, given Holdren's current view that global warming now presents imminent and grave global dangers. That's a matter for reasoned debate.
But in seeking to score points for a political argument, Beck seriously mischaracterizes Holdren's positions. Holdren didn't advocate those ideas then. And, when asked at a Senate confirmation hearing, Holdren said he did not support them now. We think it's irresponsible to pluck a few lines from a 1,000-page, 30-year-old textbook, and then present them out of context to dismiss Holdren's long and distinguished career. And we rate Beck's claim Pants on Fire!
Did you read the politifact story? It thoroughly debunks Beck's claim.
But with regard to Beck's claim that Holdren "has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population," the text of the book clearly does not support that. We think a thorough reading shows that these were ideas presented as approaches that had been discussed. They were not posed as suggestions or proposals. In fact, the authors make clear that they did not support coercive means of population control. Certainly, nowhere in the book do the authors advocate for forced abortions.
Some have argued that Holdren's view of the imminent and grave global dangers posed by overpopulation should provide pause, given Holdren's current view that global warming now presents imminent and grave global dangers. That's a matter for reasoned debate.
But in seeking to score points for a political argument, Beck seriously mischaracterizes Holdren's positions. Holdren didn't advocate those ideas then. And, when asked at a Senate confirmation hearing, Holdren said he did not support them now. We think it's irresponsible to pluck a few lines from a 1,000-page, 30-year-old textbook, and then present them out of context to dismiss Holdren's long and distinguished career. And we rate Beck's claim Pants on Fire!
From what I understand, what was said in the book was that those type of tactics might be needed - is that him going out and saying that he supports it?...no. But it introduces the idea...which is either his or his co-author's. You should stop dancing around the issue...whether or not he actually supports it, he and his co-author proposed the idea through the book they wrote in 1977. Your own article supports what I have said here. From your OWN article - exerpts from the book:
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"The third approach to population limitation is that of involuntary fertility control. Several coercive proposals deserve discussion, mainly because some countries may ultimately have to resort to them unless current trends in birth rates are rapidly reversed by other means. ...
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"Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock. ...
You need to realize that eugenics was only an idea until the Nazi's put it into practice(i.e. the Holocaust). Eugenics was an idea from the same 'Progressive' movement that Hillary Clinton has romanticized in speeches 2 years ago...
From what I understand, what was said in the book was that those type of tactics might be needed - is that him going out and saying that he supports it?...no. But it introduces the idea...which is either his or his co-author's. You should stop dancing around the issue...whether or not he actually supports it, he and his co-author proposed the idea through the book they wrote in 1977. Your own article supports what I have said here. From your OWN article - exerpts from the book:
You need to realize that eugenics was only an idea until the Nazi's put it into practice(i.e. the Holocaust). Eugenics was an idea from the same 'Progressive' movement that Hillary Clinton has romanticized in speeches 2 years ago...
No, it's not "his or his co-author's" idea. It was a textbook. If you can read through that whole politifact article and STILL think Beck wasn't being extremely dishonest in his statement, I, nor anyone else will ever convince you that Beck was lying - because it's obvious to anyone who values reason, logic and common sense.
No, it's not "his or his co-author's" idea. It was a textbook. If you can read through that whole politifact article and STILL think Beck wasn't being extremely dishonest in his statement, I, nor anyone else will ever convince you that Beck was lying - because it's obvious to anyone who values reason, logic and common sense.
??...so what was written in that text book that they authored are not their ideas?? You are saying that they plagiarized from someone else? Do you have proof?...link please...
I dont have the time to lay it all out for you, Mr. Floyd. You will just have to hear my arguments as they come...
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