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Old 05-12-2010, 05:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by harrymiafl View Post
On the contrary,I specifically stated "equal access " for the poorest & the richest...

Money is overestimated in USA politics...
The intelligence of the voters is also underestimated...

Check NYC Mayoral elections...
A billionaire Jew almost lost ( the 1st time) to a popular poor socialist politician...


Even if all "corporate America " supported Dole in 1996,spending billions over billions for him,he would lose to Clinton because Clinton was a superior to Dole politician...

Don't be wrong...

Money doesn't buy
1) love
2) elections...
It sure helped Bloomy disregard the term limits laws so he could run again and almost lose to a "popular poor socialist politician."

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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Can someone please tell me just why the TAXPAYERS should have to pay for these deadbeats campaigns?
Piggy backing on your statement, can someone also tell me why these two bills are on the tax payer's tab?

 
Old 05-14-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Another good reason why we NEED public campaign finance reform.
 
Old 06-01-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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Unless, we have serious public campaign finance reform, America will continue to be turning tricks for the likes of BP, GS and the like.

"At one level, Robert Kaiser nailed this topic in his recent book, “So Damn Much Money: The Triumph of Lobbying and the Corrosion of American Government.” Elections have become more expensive, with most of the funding provided by special interests. You can argue about which is the chicken and which is the egg, but the basic facts are inescapable.
“In 1974, the average winning campaign for the Senate cost $437,000; by 2006, that number had grown to $7.92 million. The cost of winning House campaigns grew comparably: $56,500 in 1974, $1.3 million in 2006.”[1]"
 
Old 07-07-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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Lets hope the Dems get spooked enough to finally implement some real campaign finance reform.

"On Tuesday morning, the Washington Post and Politico published dual stories exploring the "revolt" against Democrats by Wall Street donors angry with the party's push for financial reform.

The articles framed the phenomenon as a major problem for the party in power, with donations from the financial sector down 65 percent from two years ago. The fact that the National Republican Senatorial Committee emailed the pieces to reporters early in the morning only underscores the narrative that Wall Street's cold shoulder could prove to be a problem for Democrats in November."
 
Old 07-07-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Its all a illusion now that the supreme court has rule aginst it. As long as their is no eqaul access to public airays it not goign to happen and I guarnateee that the media wil only gibe lip service to it. The media are suppoted by the millions upon millions that are paid to it.The media talkig heads rely on policaians depending on them to get any free airtime and they will not give up that power.
 
Old 07-07-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Ummm, the Supreme Court has spoken, free speech won.
 
Old 07-07-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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Its all a illusion now that the supreme court has rule aginst it. As long as their is no eqaul access to public airays it not goign to happen and I guarnateee that the media wil only gibe lip service to it. The media are suppoted by the millions upon millions that are paid to it.The media talkig heads rely on policaians depending on them to get any free airtime and they will not give up that power.
Ah, but this is where the separation of powers and Net Neutrality/BroadBand Plan comes into play.

The major hurdle is getting the general public aware of campaign finance reform in the 1st place.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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If the Dems are not interested in checking special interests, they should at least look at public campaign finance reform for their own self-preservation.

"But it is number at the bottom that delivers the primary message. If they hold true to their pledges, these ten groups are posed to flood the zone with more than $200 million in election-focused spending -- roughly $37 million more than every single independent group spent on the 2008 presidential campaign combined. Only, this time around, almost every single penny will be going to Republican candidates or causes.

In the context or recent history, it is unprecedented, but speaks to how much is at stake in Washington: power, money and access will be awarded to the winning party," said Craig Shirley a biographer of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich and a longtime adviser to the conservative movement. "Everyone in America now has some sort of stake or interest in the affairs of the national government."

Still, there are those that have yet to give in to despair.

"In a push to implement a publicly-financed election system and curb moneyed interests in politics, a pair of good-government groups is launching a television ad campaign with a noteworthy price tag.

"This is a matter that members of Congress need to deal with in their own elections, and if they see the benefit both on policy grounds as well as political grounds, then they'll do it," Donnelly said. "That's really the debate we're having."
 
Old 09-19-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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It is now officially crunch time and if we don't do things right, its game over America.

"One practical and symbolic thing they could do is to pass the Fair Elections Now Act, which likely to be voted out of committee next Thursday. The Act, sponsored by Rep. John Larsen of Connecticut, with 165 co-sponsors and at least 40 more supporters, would give matching money to candidates who agreed to raise only small donations. It even has three Republican co-sponsors."
 
Old 09-25-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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More reasons why we need campaign finance reform, NOW.

"As long as members of Congress rely for re-election on campaign contributions generated by interest groups with business before Congress, the revolving door will continue to swing, as the need for cash gives corporate lobbyists abundant opportunities to spend time with former bosses and colleagues. The only way to put a stopper in it is to take away the need for that campaign cash by publicly funding campaigns, said retiring Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-R.I.).

"People say, 'Oh, I don't want my public money spent on campaigns.' Well, guess what? It already is, in the form of special interest deals and this, that and the other and this revolving door everybody hates and earmarking and blah, blah, blah," said Kennedy. "So how do we change it? Take away the need for people to have to turn that stuff around and you're going to make a big difference."

Kennedy said that the study rang true to him. "You're going to pay for it one way or the other, either upfront or through the backdoor. And it's a lot cheaper to pay upfront and come up with a system that works," he said. "If you take away the demand for the private sector to play such a heavy role, you're taking away an ingredient to this mix that 's creating the ugly correlation that you're seeing in this study."

Public financing for campaigns is a long way from happening, but a bill to alleviate the need for constant fundraising did advance in the House on Thursday. Progressive groups, led by MoveOn.org, are working to persuade candidates and members of Congress to pledge to take three concrete actions to reduce the influence of money in politics."
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