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Old 02-19-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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I like the way that is chart is trending. Great news for Americans! Bad news for the GOP.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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Default JDP road to recovery chart

We've seen it before, its been disputed before..
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do you really think people would lay off teachers and police in massive numbers as to make a difference?
Why of course the important jobs have to go first. Leave the libraries open, the parks, the pools and other non-essential programs and employees in place while you fire police, firemen and teachers.

Logic does not prevail here..panic does.

What sells better..firing teachers or closing the libraries 1-2 days a week ?
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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I like the way that is chart is trending. Great news for Americans! Bad news for the GOP.
You like the chart? How about we look at it another way, shall we?
http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/graphics/LNS14000000_118993_1266608296973.gif (broken link)
yeah, Your death for the GOP assumption when turned around actually shows huge potential for the GOP..
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:40 PM
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We've seen it before, its been disputed before..
Well, that's convincing.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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Well, that's convincing.
See above before you start to celebrate...

Btw, do I need to remind you that the Democrats took over Congress in 2007.. Right when unemployment numbers began to grow?
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:50 PM
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See above before you start to celebrate...

Btw, do I need to remind you that the Democrats took over Congress in 2007.. Right when unemployment numbers began to grow?
Of course.

Everything bad = D

Everything good = R
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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are they lying?

Yes, that's my take on it. .. they are certainly not all "dumb". . . It comes down to the fact that they beleive they are in a war with liberals, and anything is "fair" in war. . . .lying to the
American People included. That, in itself, is a good reason to ignore them and vote for anyone but the folks that are doing this!
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So you would prefer that 6.1 - 6.8 million jobs were lost? Or are you trying to say that the stimulus caused job losses? Because I'd really like to hear the argument for that.
you dont get it....the stimulas didnt CREATE or SAVE anything that wouldnt have been there already.......

I did not say the stimulas 'caused' job losses....I am saying that the government is LYING when they say 1.6 million jobs have been created, yet they REFUSE to acknowledge that 4 million jobs have been lost

sorry but you can say that because I originally had 12 donuts but at 6, and then bought 2, then say you created 6.....because the fact is you only have 8 left from your 12....you have a loss

and I really love how the counted someone getting a raise as a 'saved' job



this is how they count 'saved' jobs:

In June, the federal government spent $1,047 in stimulus money to buy a rider mower from the Toro Company to cut the grass at the Fayetteville National Cemetery in Arkansas. Now, a report on the government’s stimulus Web site improbably claims that that single lawn mower sale helped save or create 50 jobs.


hmmm a 1000 dollar lawn mower is 50 saved jobs


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In the Battle for Stimulus Jobs, Shoe Store Owner Tells War Story
Louise Radnofsky reports on how the stimulus money is being spent.

How did Kentucky shoe store owner Buddy Moore save nine jobs with just $889.60 in federal stimulus money? He didn’t, and that’s turning into a big headache for him.

Moore’s store in Campbellsville, Ky., filed one of 156,614 reports from recipients of stimulus dollars designed to show how money from the $787 billion program is being spent, and how many jobs the funds have created or saved.

Moore’s slice of the stimulus came in an $889.60 order from the Army Corps of Engineers for nine pairs of work boots for a stimulus project.

Moore says he’s been supplying the Corps with boots for at least two decades. This year, because he provided safety shoes for work funded by the stimulus package, he said he got a call from the Corps telling him he had to fill out a report for Recovery.gov detailing how he’d used the $889.60, and how many jobs it had helped him to create or save. He later got another call, asking him if he’d finished the report.

“The paperwork was unreal,” said Moore, who added that he tried to figure out how to file the forms online, then gave up and asked his daughter to help.

Paula Moore-Kirby, 42 years old, had less trouble with the Web site, but couldn’t work out how to answer the question about how many jobs her father had created or saved. She couldn’t leave it blank, either, she said. After several calls to a helpline for recipients she came away with the impression that she would hear back if there was a problem with her response, and have a chance to correct it. So with 15 minutes to go before the reporting deadline, she sent in her answer: nine jobs, because her father helped nine members of the Corps to work.



hmmm nine pair of safety shoes for 889 dollars......nine jobs


so much for honesty from washington dc
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Certainly, and that is the problem. Of course, if it is doing anything good people cheer Bush...if it's bad then it is all Obama's fault. Lies, misdirection, and logical fallacies seem to plague things now and people don't seem to think anything is wrong with that as long as it's their party doing it.

Which is just partisan psychosis.
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