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You live on a finite planet and you are a life form that requires two things which are to consume and reproduce. Can you not see how that conflicts with a living wage?
Why should minimum wage continue to increase when the number of unskilled workers increases by tens of millions of people every year and the amount of work that's needed to be done by humans shrinks as it becomes automated?
You want to employ the nation remove your minimum wage standards because a few dollars an hour looks a hell of a lot better then zero per hour/day/week/month/year.
Since humans can created things like food, money we actually are not as limited as you think we are. We should increase the min wage because humans are not robots with no feelings or needs humans are living creatures whose value is more important then profits and just being used to make something.Human life is much more valuable and important then about everything on this planet.
Government is supposed to determine the lowest wage a business can pay and that is the min wage so in fact they do. Free market only does it well really for the wealthy I would not be surprised if you were one of those people who benefited from it.
What about the jobs that pay below minimum-wage?
I have seen restaurant workers who were paid less, the system assumes that with tips they will earn more. But dish-washers and bus-boys rarely get tips.
I have seen restaurant workers who were paid less, the system assumes that with tips they will earn more. But dish-washers and bus-boys rarely get tips.
That is an exception but I would say many people who work as servers as supposed to other positions in a restaurant like cooks dishwashers are part timers. The main point is whither through min wag raise, government help or some other method we need to make sure people are able to pay their rent, have food and be able to save money in case of emergencies. It is called having human decency and why we do not all just live individually for ourselves.
Regardless of how much you want it to be that way, it is neither the responsibility of government or private industry to do this. That is a fact.
If you force either to do this, many others will suffer in other ways.
Where does it say it is not the governments job or private industries? Whose responsibility is it then? Do not say the poor person because I have already shown that not all poor people have the intelligent or skills to get better jobs. Sounds like you will make any excuse not to help the poor. Who will suffer the business owners who are making a nice profit off paying their employees slave wages? All that is to bad the can not afford a new car or vacation because their employees want to have enough money to eat that day.
Where does it say it is not the governments job or private industries? Whose responsibility is it then? Do not say the poor person because I have already shown that not all poor people have the intelligent or skills to get better jobs. Sounds like you will make any excuse not to help the poor. Who will suffer the business owners who are making a nice profit off paying their employees slave wages? All that is to bad the can not afford a new car or vacation because their employees want to have enough money to eat that day.
It isn't a question of where it says it's not the governments job or private industry's job, its a question of where it does say it. Can you show me where there is some legally binding document that shows otherwise?
You have proven absolutely nothing of the sort.
You make up complete BS about what "I" think and you have this perception that I'm somehow this evil spirited horrible person, which quite frankly is incredibly ignorant and uninformed on your part. I give plenty of my time, money, and literally blood to people in need on a regular basis, so you should zip it on that front.
The people that suffer are the business owners and workers who are already just making enough to sustain themselves...you have this misguided perception that those with jobs or that own businesses are somehow SO well off, many of those in each category make enough to get by...you want to take more from them so you can push them over the line into poverty, great plan.
I love the world that exists in your brain, it truly seems like a wonderful world, its just unfortunate that it isnt based in reality.
It isn't a question of where it says it's not the governments job or private industry's job, its a question of where it does say it. Can you show me where there is some legally binding document that shows otherwise?
You have proven absolutely nothing of the sort.
You make up complete BS about what "I" think and you have this perception that I'm somehow this evil spirited horrible person, which quite frankly is incredibly ignorant and uninformed on your part. I give plenty of my time, money, and literally blood to people in need on a regular basis, so you should zip it on that front.
The people that suffer are the business owners and workers who are already just making enough to sustain themselves...you have this misguided perception that those with jobs or that own businesses are somehow SO well off, many of those in each category make enough to get by...you want to take more from them so you can push them over the line into poverty, great plan.
I love the world that exists in your brain, it truly seems like a wonderful world, its just unfortunate that it isnt based in reality.
So I guess it means nothing that that the US Department of Labor sets the min wage and that the US Department of Labor is part of the government.I never said I thought you were evil. If you own a business which is barely making it why do you have those employees then? You should be able to afford employees before you hire them it is just common business knowledge. Whose fault is it that the company is barely making it? Not the employees.
So I guess it means nothing that that the US Department of Labor sets the min wage and that the US Department of Labor is part of the government.I never said I thought you were evil. If you own a business which is barely making it why do you have those employees then? You should be able to afford employees before you hire them it is just common business knowledge. Whose fault is it that the company is barely making it? Not the employees.
I think the minimum wage should be abolished, and no that is not because I think we should pay people $1 an hour, there are lengthy articles and books written about how it would actually improve working conditions and salaries for people, but you will just refute them with pie in the sky, "everyone should make lots of money" arguments not based in fact or economic reality.
You should get yourself a few books on basic economics, or just move to Cuba and see how much you like your ideas once they are put in practice.
Even though I am all for training I do not think it is right to make people get training if they do not want to. Some people enjoy and are comfortable doing whatever low wage job they are doing. If they get more skills and change jobs the may be forced into a job they hate and are not comfortable in and that would not be worth the extra money.
Good point. Well, you have probably have heard the saying "Beggars can't be choosy". If I do not have a job because I lack some skills or because my skills are no longer usefull out there I have some choices to make. Move where I have better chances for my skills to be used, stay where I am and take any jobs even if I get paid less, or not take any job because I do not want to work on something else and suffere the consequences.
Are you implying that is someone does not want to get training so he can have better chances for other jobs we than support his stubborness and give him food stamps?
I am not saying to force anyone. I am saying that to that person "Here is some training opportunties so you can be more marketable and be able to support your family. There opportunities for there areas. Which one you prefer?"
If he says none, well, I would then say "OK, you have that right. Now, the taxpayer should not be obligated to support you for your lack willingness to improve yourself and be more productive in society so no more food stamps. You had your chance and you do not want to take it. The taxpayer does not want to support you either, bye".
Take care.
Republicans want no minimum wage. They are o.k. with paying a person who works 40 hrs a week doing back breaking work $4 an hour while at the same time paying a CEO 20 million a year. Go figure.
The difference in pay has to do with the availability for certain skills. How many CEOs can you find to run corporation as compared of how many people can cut grass, pick up trash, clean offices, do office work, etc?
Do you think that a doctor should be paid the same as a bus boy?
How about the guy that is good at bouncing a ball and score by putting it in a basket? That is what free market is all about, not forced socialism.
The more difficult a skill is to find the more that individual gets paid. That happens all over the place. Why is it that at times a bricklayer may get paid much better than a teacher. Because it is back breaking work that not many do.
Even in the Army some jobs paid more due to the hazards involved. People that work in oil rigs do get good pay, why? Because of the hazards and the sacrifice required that it is not that easy to find people that are willing to do that.
A CEO may get paid a lot but at a moments notice he is fired and that is why many of them in their contract do demand a severance pay should they not make it. Another employee in some other low paying job may not be able to make such demand because others can take his job just like that. Replacing a CEO that will manange thousands of people and is in charge of millions or billions of dollars you do not find anywhere just like that and that is why they are valuable and get the big bucks. They were not born CEOs. They have a lot of experience to be part of a unique group of people and very few of them as compared to other fields and positions. Take care.
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