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Old 02-20-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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I'm not sure about the 40% statistic but there are many women in church who has had abortions. The church I used to attend even had a post-abortion support group for women dealing with the emotional aftermath of abortions. I know of at least one person in my church who was open about an abortion she had when she was younger and how she deeply regretted it and often thought about what the child would have been like. That was a powerful testimony she gave that evening and one that I would never forget.
Women and couples from all walks of life have abortions. Some regret it later and I've no gripe with their assessment of their own feelings.

What needs to be considered was suppose this young girl had gone ahead and had a baby she could not afford: would she turn to prostitution to pay her way through life; would she have ended up on drugs as many hookers do; would the child have suffered; would the child end up in an abusive foster care situation. There are so many possible outcomes that I end up wishing people would let their past decisions not trouble them; that woman made the best decision she could at her young age. She is rather courageous for speaking up.

Perhaps we could reduce abortions greatly if more birth control info and resources were available for young people (especially those of limited means) and more resources for pregnant girls, instead of the scornful judgement of the religious right towards unwed moms.
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Old 02-20-2010, 07:55 PM
 
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Women and couples from all walks of life have abortions. Some regret it later and I've no gripe with their assessment of their own feelings.

What needs to be considered was supposed this young girl had gone ahead and had a baby she could not afford: would she turn to prostitution to pay her way through life; would she have ended up on drugs as many hookers do; would the child have suffered; would the child end up in an abusive foster care situation. There are so many possible outcomes that I end up wishing people would let their past decisions not trouble them; that woman made the best decision she could at her young age.

Perhaps we could reduce abortions greatly if more birth control resources were available for young people (especially those of limited means) and more resources for pregnant girls, instead of the scornful judgement of the religious right towards unwed moms.

I personally would like to see more of the religious folks offer to take an unwanted child and raise it, rather than confront the expectant mother on the sidewalk outside an abortion clinic and scream "Murderer!" in her face.

And I'm not talking about on an individual basis either. Why not on a collective, congregational basis? A lot of these mega churches and mega ministries are rolling in cash. Wouldn't that money be better spent running orphanages for unwanted children than on new suits and cars for the pastor?
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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Most prolife folks are not really entirely prolife. Most of them have exceptions they are willing to allow so it's all bunk anyway. I've never met one of those "not even if the woman is going to die" types IRL and everyone I've talked to on the matter I've convinced them they are really prochoice but don't want to call themselves that. Most people just like the sound of "prolife" and want that lable because it makes them sound like a better person.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:37 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Women and couples from all walks of life have abortions. Some regret it later and I've no gripe with their assessment of their own feelings.

What needs to be considered was suppose this young girl had gone ahead and had a baby she could not afford: would she turn to prostitution to pay her way through life; would she have ended up on drugs as many hookers do; would the child have suffered; would the child end up in an abusive foster care situation. There are so many possible outcomes that I end up wishing people would let their past decisions not trouble them; that woman made the best decision she could at her young age. She is rather courageous for speaking up.

Perhaps we could reduce abortions greatly if more birth control info and resources were available for young people (especially those of limited means) and more resources for pregnant girls, instead of the scornful judgement of the religious right towards unwed moms.
Unwed mothers do not receive as much scorn as many like to believe. My medium-sized church has tons of single mothers who are treated very compassionately.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I personally would like to see more of the religious folks offer to take an unwanted child and raise it, rather than confront the expectant mother on the sidewalk outside an abortion clinic and scream "Murderer!" in her face.

And I'm not talking about on an individual basis either. Why not on a collective, congregational basis? A lot of these mega churches and mega ministries are rolling in cash. Wouldn't that money be better spent running orphanages for unwanted children than on new suits and cars for the pastor?
Although I don't agree with your assessment of churches (and no most are NOT rolling in the dough), I would like to see a return of orphanages and other church-ran systems to care for the unwanted children.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:40 PM
 
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I always wonder how many people are pro-life until they find themselves or perhaps their daughter faced with the decision.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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I always wonder how many people are pro-life until they find themselves or perhaps their daughter faced with the decision.
I've heard stories from abortion providers about this. There have been cases where the people who have been active protesters have an abortion and claim their situation is different. ::Of course it is sweetie:: Then they go right back to the protest line when it's over.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Unwed mothers do not receive as much scorn as many like to believe. My medium-sized church has tons of single mothers who are treated very compassionately.
Sounds like a really nice church, one with a focus on human need, not human failings or shortcomings. Sadly, it's the loud-mouthed judgmental types like Pat Robertson, James Dobson and the late Jerry Falwell who get the publicity and poison public discourse.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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I always wonder how many people are pro-life until they find themselves or perhaps their daughter faced with the decision.
I don't think I can handle an unplanned pregnancy at this stage in my life.... hence, I'm abstaining.
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:09 PM
 
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I don't think I can handle an unplanned pregnancy at this stage in my life.... hence, I'm abstaining.
well, good for you, but a lot of people don't.
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