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Friday, speaking at an ultra-conservative conference, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty attacked the Recovery Act and said "we can't spend more than we have" -- even though he couldn't balance his state budget without dipping into Recovery Act funds.
It's just another hypocritical attack from a party that is more interested in partisan gridlock than putting Americans back to work.
Wait so because he is anti-war that automatically makes him a liberal? I am a conservative that is against war does that make me a liberal?
That is ridiculous.
And considering Obama was against the war, before he was for it, I'm trying to figure out if this is the OP's attempt at trying to call Obama a conservative so he can begin to distance himself from the President..
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The problem with your thesis is that Ron Paul is libertarian. He is about as far from liberal as can be found.
Palin isn't conservative either. Everytime she talks, or places a vote, it's for MORE government. Not less.
And conservatives were against the Iraq war. People like Pat Buchanon were opposed to it before it ever started. It's not even debatable that conservatives were against Iraq. Just look at what conservative wrote before the war and you can see that. It was the liberal wing of the republican party that was for it.
Look at history anyway. Liberals have been the ones with the aggressive foreign policy. WW1- Wilson, WW2- Roosevelt, Korea- Truman, Vietnam- Kennedy/Johnson, Bosnia/Kosovo- Clinton. Even republican wars in Iraq and Panama were done by the Bushes. The most liberal of republican presidents.
Sorry, your entire premise is inaccurate and based on stereotypes. Congrats though. You managed to stereotype Democrats and Republicans. Not may people can do that.
Once again Ron Paul is Libertarian. And since when did libs want to legalize marijuana? I never heard the Clintons or Obama or Biden say that.
Pat Buchanon is a real conservative and not a neo conservative. And Clinton, Biden and Obama are not liberals. They are neo cons.
And considering Obama was against the war, before he was for it, I'm trying to figure out if this is the OP's attempt at trying to call Obama a conservativeso he can begin to distance himself from the President..
pghquest shoots..
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Pat Buchanon is a real conservative and not a neo conservative. And Clinton, Biden and Obama are not liberals. They are neo cons.
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And considering Obama was against the war, before he was for it, I'm trying to figure out if this is the OP's attempt at trying to call Obama a conservative so he can begin to distance himself from the President..
Obama IS a conservative. His policies are essentially the same as Bush's were whether it is on Iraq, bailing out the big banks, GM and Wall Street or any number of other issues. He FOOLED lots of people like me by running as a liberal but now he has shown his true stripes.
[quote=OhioIstheBest;12999157]The problem with your thesis is that Ron Paul is libertarian. He is about as far from liberal as can be found.
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Palin isn't conservative either. Everytime she talks, or places a vote, it's for MORE government. Not less.
she isnt?
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And conservatives were against the Iraq war. People like Pat Buchanon were opposed to it before it ever started. It's not even debatable that conservatives were against Iraq.
lol
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Just look at what conservative wrote before the war and you can see that. It was the liberal wing of the republican party that was for it.
liberal wing of the republican party??? and who are these liberals in the republican party? its funny now republicans care about being specific various wings of a party
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Look at history anyway. Liberals have been the ones with the aggressive foreign policy. WW1- Wilson, WW2- Roosevelt, Korea- Truman, Vietnam- Kennedy/Johnson, Bosnia/Kosovo- Clinton. Even republican wars in Iraq and Panama were done by the Bushes. The most liberal of republican presidents.
bush is conservative
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Once again Ron Paul is Libertarian. And since when did libs want to legalize marijuana? I never heard the Clintons or Obama or Biden say that
care to explain how this would fit any conservative agenda
Obama IS a conservative. His policies are essentially the same as Bush's were whether it is on Iraq, bailing out the big banks, GM and Wall Street or any number of other issues. He FOOLED lots of people like me by running as a liberal but now he has shown his true stripes.
Read the link I posted about Ron Paul.
Look at Ron Paul's voting history.
Ron Paul votes just as he talks.
He's not out to fool anyone.
Obama IS a conservative. His policies are essentially the same as Bush's were whether it is on Iraq, bailing out the big banks, GM and Wall Street or any number of other issues. He FOOLED lots of people like me by running as a liberal but now he has shown his true stripes.
Not even close.. Obama is so far left that it seems to be driving you to not even want to associate yourself with him.
Obama didnt bail out the banks, he simply changed how the investments were made by Bush were collateralized.
His policies arent even close to the same as Bushs.. Ok, I cant say this is true, because I dont even know where his policies stand with Iraq anymore. Iraqs plans are still being carried out as Bush planned them.. Has Obama even done anything to change them? I dont think so, but its possible, but even if he hasnt that doesnt make him a conservative, it either makes him not leadership material, or it validates the Bush strategy.
Read the link I posted about Ron Paul.
Look at Ron Paul's voting history.
Ron Paul votes just as he talks.
He's not out to fool anyone.
Kev was referring to Obama fooling people..
As I stated above, the OP is trying to seperate themself from Obama.. Dam, we should have an accuratcy rating here on cd..
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