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Completely screwed up his life? Really a bit dramatic there. Dude has one of the most popular news shows on tv. He has over come a lot.
I dont think thinking we should follow the constitution is extremist
I didn't say it stayed screwed up. I meant he had completely screwed up his life when he was younger.
Why do we celebrate people who overcome addictions and failures more than people who never cave to such weakness in the first place?
The people who cave to the weakness have to latch onto some radical ideology (political, religious, or otherwise) to help them recover and when they do and go on to get powerful in politics or the media we all suffer
It's like how our society fawns over rock stars who got hooked on drugs and then went through rehab, all the while snubbing their noses at people who maybe got a PhD in physics and made some substantive breakthrough.
Nobody made Beck drink. If his moral weakness didn't allow him to cave to such vice, he never would have had anything to overcome. Nothing to celebrate there.
Weak people don't threaten us, so we embrace them. Strong, intelligent people threaten us, so we tear them down.
That's kinda judgmental. Maybe his mother was an alcoholic while she was pregnant. Maybe he was born a recovering alcoholic and just didn't know it so when he had that first drink... well, he was done in. So maybe it took a while to put the pieces together, get a grip and get on with life.
I'm not for society fawning over poor me stories but frequently there's more to a story than many know.
That's kinda judgmental. Maybe his mother was an alcoholic while she was pregnant. Maybe he was born a recovering alcoholic and just didn't know it so when he had that first drink... well, he was done in. So maybe it took a while to put the pieces together, get a grip and get on with life.
I'm not for society fawning over poor me stories but frequently there's more to a story than many know.
Ultimately, people are responsible for themselves. People turn to food in times of stress or cigarettes or whatever. I get that and I do it myself, but it doesn't mean I expect people to admire me for it or for overcoming it.
It's a weakness of my own spirit that lets me cave to such vices. I'm not going to build a career on it staring into a camera telling people how much I overcame just so they sympathize with me.
Ultimately, people are responsible for themselves. People turn to food in times of stress or cigarettes or whatever. I get that and I do it myself, but it doesn't mean I expect people to admire me for it or for overcoming it.
It's a weakness of my own spirit that lets me cave to such vices. I'm not going to build a career on it staring into a camera telling people how much I overcame just so they sympathize with me.
Perry and Palin are quite foolish. Their track records say so.
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I have a life beyond CD and forgot about this thread.
