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Old 02-28-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by leecas View Post
So it's only ok for you to dish it out...
I didn't post like an idiot saying, "Whatever you say to" to all your posts.

I backed it up with information, facts, etc. not just, "Whatever."

When someone just posts, "Whatever you say" and that's it, they look like some immature little kid.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PurpleLove08 View Post
I didn't post like an idiot saying, "Whatever you say to" to all your posts.

I backed it up with information, facts, etc. not just, "Whatever."

When someone just posts, "Whatever you say" and that's it, they look like some immature little kid.
Okay....whatever you say.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Earth,for the time being...
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President Obama... is that you ??? Did you write this ??? The country can't afford your plan, it's that simple....In fact, the country can't afford much of anything that you're doing...You're spending our money like Tiger at 2 for 1 day at the local whorehouse....your policies are doing more damage to this country than Al Quaeda could ever dream of.....Think about it...Who's really gonna benefit from this stupid, EXPENSIVE plan ??? A handful of people who really deserve help !! - the rest are people that never contribute to anything, but suck up every hand out they can get without working for it...Let's get real - the majority of the hard working people in this country will take a giant hit so that the liberal Democrats can cater to the votes of the welfare recipients & the ILLEGAL ALIENS that shouldn't be here in the first place, if the Government was doing it's job protecting our borders the way it's supposed to...
What ever happened to the President's promise to televise the meetings on a network for everyone to see ???
I never heard ANY explanation about why that never happened......
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Europe
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If other countries socialized healthcare is so good, why did the canadian Prime Minister abondon his countrymen to beat cheeks into the USA to get his own healthcare needs addressed?

I'll tell you why, because socialized medicine is established in places only where the govt. thinks it knows what's best for its' citizens.
Obama, Pelosi, Read and the rest of his followers think the average American is to stupid to make their own choice.
One anecdote does not proof a hypothesis.
The US has the highest health care costs per capita without superior services and without better health overall.
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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Create a UHC and you create jobs. Not just a few jobs but millions of jobs.
Getting a bit tired now of the Anti Obama brigade trying every excuse under the sun to Diss Obama.
If the Obama bashers were really serious about improving America, they would devote more time actually thinking of how to support change and improvement instead of whining in a effort to get Obama out of the Whitehouse.
A uhc would cure two of America's biggest problems.... Healthcare and unemployment.
Everyone can't work for the government,...and the bureaucracy the government-run healthcare would create would be the major employer. Please tell all us uninformed Americans where all the government-run healthcare jobs will be created. And then please tell us how many jobs will be lost when the private insurance companies are forced out of business by a government subsidized program.

Like I said,...EVERYBODY can't work for the government,...somebody has to pay taxes,...and taking the money out of one pocket and putting it in the other won't solve many economic problems.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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With Public Option will more small companies drop insurance coverage or not? If that happens there will be more movement toward government control of healthcare since they pay for it.
I read somewhere, that an employer will be fined if his/her employees use Public Option.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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Well I found interesting stats on the percent of GDP spent on health care in the USA compared to other industried nations and the US is the highest. On the list it has other nations that spend lower in GDP in health care and they have UHC such as Germany, Japan, UK, Australia and Canada. What is not on the list is Isreal and even now they have UHC.

Snapshots: Health Care Spending in the United States and OECD Countries - Kaiser Family Foundation

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Old 03-01-2010, 12:25 AM
 
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Wasn't health care a lot cheaper a few decades ago? Why can't we just do what we were doing back then? Weren't there far less regulations and government involvement then?
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Old 03-01-2010, 01:25 AM
 
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Wasn't health care a lot cheaper a few decades ago? Why can't we just do what we were doing back then? Weren't there far less regulations and government involvement then?

rep for you. don't know how to give you more or to make a comment so i'll just have to say it here, bravo
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Wasn't health care a lot cheaper a few decades ago? Why can't we just do what we were doing back then? Weren't there far less regulations and government involvement then?
Germany's UHC is tightly regulated but more efficient than the US' health care system. Maybe you want to look into this:

Health Reform Without a Public Plan: The German Model - Economix Blog - NYTimes.com
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