One million strong against socialistic fire departments (wages, dollar, rating)

[stan4]

Originally Posted by burdell

Are you so sure you're getting $2 worth of servive for your $2 on the local level?

Good luck with things like building an Interstate Highway system on the local level

We've built a bunch of gorgeous highways on local tolls and road taxes. And highways tend to have a little less diversity/complexity, wouldn't you say?

[buzzpost]

Originally Posted by PurpleLove08

1 Million Strong Against our SOCIALIST Fire Departments | Facebook


I wonder if we'll see movements in cities and states to get rid of public fire departments.

Wow. Those people are idiots.

[buzzpost]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

Ever been to a fire station or knew any fireman? Most of the time, they are doing absolutely nothing. It is a good gig for the firemen, but not the best deal for those paying for the salaries and equipment.

Except when they risk their lives going into burning and/or collapsing buildings to rescue someone's life at their own peril.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by stan4

For one thing, one size does not fit all. Each locale has its own set of problems it needs to address and various unique populations.

Secondly, problems can be addressed much more quickly and those accountable would be much more easily reached.

This really does work well at a community level, as many sliding scale clinics I have seen/been involved with have demonstrated.

Does it make sense to duplicate many things? Like having ten clinics with separate purchasing programs rather than a consolidated one that can negotiate better pricing?

Many rural areas have only state police coverage and it saves those areas $$$. Are you proposing each little area would be better served if they were required to develop their own programs?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by stan4

We've built a bunch of gorgeous highways on local tolls and road taxes. And highways tend to have a little less diversity/complexity, wouldn't you say?

It's not just highways, it's things like an air traffic control system that make no sense being handled on a local level.

[lonepalmhc]

I like what someone posted on the Facebook page.

Bryan Butrum: Freedom means never having to say your free! Stop (socialist) elections too!

[stan4]

Originally Posted by burdell

It's not just highways, it's things like an air traffic control system that make no sense being handled on a local level.

You persist in comparing apples with oranges.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by stan4

You persist in comparing apples with oranges.

Not at all, I persist in saying it makes no sense to duplicate many things at stste levels when they could be better handled nationally.

[newhandle]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

Oh, you are so right, the difference between picking up a bag of garbage and throwing it in the back of a truck and going into a burning building are such a similar skill set!

Does anyone favoring this understand the rationale for why cities like Philadelphia and New York abandoned "private" fire departments in the mid 19th Century?

Before the public fire departments, fire coverage was like insurance - your house displayed a medallion (very collectable now) showing which fire service you subscribed to. No other company would put your fire out. That was a sure recipie for disaster and spreading fires from house to house. If you did not have coverage, your house burned.

Getting rid of the pubilc fire departments, is stupid and typical of conservatives - take something that works and get rid of it. I doubt any private company would show the courage and selfishness of our public firefighters.

Firefighters are just another example of a good public service.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by stan4

FDs are locally funded. Not some scam to get us to send badrillions of dollars to some massive, centralized, inefficient, nanny-poo-poo federal government so that it can be redistributed in some clownish attept to redistribute the wealth and provide us $2 of service for every $20 of tax money we send.

Thanks, but no thanks. Local, grass roots...even state level...we'll take care of it ourselves.

Are you really naive enough to believe there isn't inefficiency and outright abuse of power and misuse of funds at local, county, and state levels?

It would be interesting to see the total $$$ squandered at state and lower level government levels vs. the federal government. IF a true value could be determined I'd bet it would be an eye opener to the "Fed bad, local good" crowd.