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Old 02-24-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You're just the kind of short-sighted patriot that would have condemned anyone who had engineered a terrorist attack against the British many years ago.

That attack in Austin was arbitrary. There's so many people fed up with our goverment today, take your pick eenie-meenie-myny-mo, just to send a message to our governmnet.

The one lone innocent victim? He served in Vietnam? He wasn't involved with air missions in Vietnam, killing innocent people? 68 years old? I thought the retirement age was 62, 65? Greedy? With SS and a pension, why wasn't he out volunteering in the community?
Why go back that far in history? What did you think of Bill Ayers being fed up with the government and trying to bomb buildings? Was he a hero? What did you think of 9/11 getting dive bombed with an airplane? Al Qaeda has a problem with our government, too. Are they heroes in your view? Or do dive bombers have to be homegrown to be a hero in your eyes? If so what is the difference? Perhaps your ideal patriot needs to hook up with Al Qaeda since you have so much in common.

No matter how you feel about the above, you have no right to try to discredit the character of the victim of the IRS bombing. It's none of your business why he hadn't retired yet or what he did in his two tours in Vietnam.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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Of course governments kill people but I realize that it is NOT a good thing and it is NOT something I would glorify as you have with Stack. VERY BIG DIFFERENCE!!
Please explain the difference?
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Please explain the difference?

You don't understand. The difference I am referring to is that I realize BOTH are wrong you think Stack was a hero. If a government doing it is wrong then Stack was wrong. Get it!
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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Please explain the difference?
The difference is that this poor victim did not have jurisdiction over Stack's tax issues. Why don't you see that all the A-hole Stack accomplished was killing an innocent family guy and made no point other than to prove that he was a bitter, stupid and vindictive fool. No policy will be changed due to what he did.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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The rules are, as I understand them, you work, you are paid, you owe taxes. Do I like that? No, I really don't. However, the government has to have some source of revenue *and* the convention has been set that this is simply WHAT YOU DO. Whether you like it or not.
For heaven's sake let's not change the conventional way of doing things, no way. And damn those people who fought for civil rights and committed acts of civil disobedience in order to force a change in the convention of the time; you know, segregation and all that. They broke the rules and the civil rights movement was born.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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For heaven's sake let's not change the conventional way of doing things, no way. And damn those people who fought for civil rights and committed acts of civil disobedience in order to force a change in the convention of the time; you know, segregation and all that. They broke the rules and the civil rights movement was born.
acts of civil disobedience is not murder. you confuse the two and somehow I doubt you are that dense, just trying to find a way to justify this cowards act
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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The difference is that this poor victim did not have jurisdiction over Stack's tax issues.
And how does a young soldier fighting on foreign soil have jurisdiction over that country's issues?
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Over There
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For heaven's sake let's not change the conventional way of doing things, no way. And damn those people who fought for civil rights and committed acts of civil disobedience in order to force a change in the convention of the time; you know, segregation and all that. They broke the rules and the civil rights movement was born.

Perhaps you need a lesson in what civil disobedience actually is.

Civil disobedience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Civil disobedience is the active refusal to obey certain laws, demands and commands of a government, or of an occupying international power. It is one of the primary methods of nonviolent resistance.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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Perhaps you need a lesson in what civil disobedience actually is.

Civil disobedience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thank you cyber queen
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:12 PM
 
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And how does a young soldier fighting on foreign soil have jurisdiction over that country's issues?
If you are naive enough to sign up for a war, you have to be prepared to be what is considered...G.I...Government Issue. You are fighting on behalf of your country or so you are told. If you are anti war you protest, you do not join the military and if you are anti taxation you forfeit your rights to use public places, roads, schools, facililites, etc. You protest, you get invloved in rassroots politics and do whatever it takes to get the attention of the powers that be...short of MURDER!
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