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Old 02-27-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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No, it wouldn't be like that at all. Gays HAVE the same rights as non-gays, with the only possible exception being the whole marriage thing (which is debatable and another topic in itself anyway). It's not like gays can't use the same bathrooms or anything.

It was an analogy so it wasn't supposed to be the exact same. But they don't have all of the same rights. They can't get married or have benefits

Pot meet kettle. Yeah there's no propoganda for it. I guess I just imagined gay pride marches and gay pride week (etc). PS if you don't think it's a big deal politically, I presume you don't live in America, where gay marriages have been a very big political issue lately.

So were marches in the 60s propaganda?
And what you are saying is that if it's political, it's propaganda.

But to many it will pervert the definition of marriage. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, just pointing out that many people against gay marriage aren't "homophobes." Again disagreement does not equal hate.

People said the same thing about letting women and poor people vote and about Civil Rights. Whatever people want to tell themselves so it doesn't sound like it is coming from a place of hate.
This.
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Old 02-27-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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That is exactly what it is, people are repelled by it as they should be. I have noticed time and time again that even gays must think being gay is so horrible that they will try to insult or attack someone by accusing them of being gay. I think we should take their word for it.

Most of them are very hetrophobic anyway. They have a fear of normal relationships and the fact that the same sex together can never have a family in the normal way. They go counter to nature.
If you ever decide you want to be a big girl and become educated, know that college awaits. The leeeebral book learnin' and all sciency' like stuff has it's benefits, I assure you. As you age, one imagines living in a world you literally manufacture has got to be tiring.


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Any "homophobia trend" is simply a response to a more aggressive gay agenda. I think if they gays just shut up and quietly carried on their lives, no one would care. However, when one constantly places a minority agenda in the faces of the public, one can and should expect a response. I have nothing against gays; I just get sick of gays constantly bringing up thier "agenda", as I find it irritating. If anything, I think that the aggressive presentation of the 'gay agenda" creates more problems for gays than good, as it moves those ambivilent about the whole issue to being more anti-gay.
What is the gay agenda, and how is it being pushed down your throat?
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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I don't have problems. Problems are alcoholism, drug addiction, sexually transmitted diseases, obesity, nicotine addiction, no education, no job, no food, no house, etc. I don't have those problems.

A lack of friends is not indicative of problems. I choose my friends based on their devotion to me which isn't super often to find.

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Are you bummed-out because you don't have enough strait friends? Maybe you would have more strait friends if you didn't blame your personal problems on people who want nothing more than to simply not be bothered with your personal issues. This white boy would probably have more black friends if blacks in general didn't blame cracker-faced Whiteys like me for their own dysfunction and lack of achievement. I really don't get blamed for four hundred years of oppression and the continuing effects of that oppression from my white boy buddies. Believe it or not, not being blamed for someone else's problems makes relating much easier. Looks like gays are taking a page from the "cause I'm black" playbook.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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I agree;however, it is duplicitous for a Christian to see homophobia as bad.

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Good, decent, hard-working, religious, patriotic Americans will never admit to any negative character traits.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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It is not an irrational fear for a homosexual to be fearful of a straight dude. Let's be real.

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I don't give a damn how it is commonly used when it is commonly used WRONGLY.

Shall we start calling all homosexuals Hetrophobes?

Is that accurate? Do homosexuals have an irrational fear of hetrosexuals?

People can object to homosexuality and not have irrational fears, they may simply object on whatever basis.

The implicit nature of the term "homophobe" is obvious.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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Why is gay pride so bad when everybody else gets their Southern Baptist Pride, Black Pride, Feminist Pride, Irish Pride, and LULAC Pride??

And I kid you not there is an Irish/Scottish Pride in town. They go out and play bagpipes etc.

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Yeah, but he said "all of the time". Those gay pride events usually take place only one day or one weekend per year, so they must be talking about something more than that.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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Or God welcomes everyone to church except for homosexuals. Morbid obese sloths, divorcees, and flirtatious women can attend and be Christian but not gays.

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I know, it's just the constant vomiting of hypocrisy. "I have no problem w/homosexuals, in fact I have a few gay friends, I just don't think they should be allowed to marry." Uhhhh, right. You're not a bigot or homophobic in aaaaany waaaaay.

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Old 02-27-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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considering the Black community are the furthest thing from an ally the gay rights community could possibly have. But, still, the equivocating continues. It's really kind of humorous in a sad kind of way.
Really? Because from a sociological standpoint I would put the very religious Hispanic culture to be the "furthest thing from an ally they gay rights community could possibly have"

But that's beside the point.

This homophobic trend is merely a morphing of the brutal homophobia of the past few decades...but it's really all the same thing....

you know, it's the "kinder, gentler, version of hate".
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Hispanics (or any super-devoted group) can be extremely obsessive about Catholic rituals and beliefs. It's very cult-like and not good for your mind.

And your other points were very well stated.

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Really? Because from a sociological standpoint I would put the very religious Hispanic culture to be the "furthest thing from an ally they gay rights community could possibly have"

But that's beside the point.

This homophobic trend is merely a morphing of the brutal homophobia of the past few decades...but it's really all the same thing....

you know, it's the "kinder, gentler, version of hate".
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:04 AM
 
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It was an analogy so it wasn't supposed to be the exact same. But they don't have all of the same rights. They can't get married or have benefits
That's it. That's the only alleged "right" they don't have. ie the analogy to blacks is not valid. That's my point.

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So were marches in the 60s propaganda? And what you are saying is that if it's political, it's propaganda.
As above, it's apples and oranges.

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People said the same thing about letting women and poor people vote and about Civil Rights. Whatever people want to tell themselves so it doesn't sound like it is coming from a place of hate.
And again.
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