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Old 03-01-2010, 06:37 AM
 
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mhrman,
The narrative that you have been pushing on numerous threads is a lie. And repeating a lie a thousand times does not make it the truth.
Here is a well documented paper, including many references from Arab sources, which describes in detail and refutes the myths that you have been disseminating:
Palestinian Myths
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:09 AM
 
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Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Israel to build new settlement



Its illegal but they're still breaking the laws, and the U.N. does not even force them to stop, thats why peace will never be achieved between Israel and Palestine.
The U.N. can't force them (or anybody else) to anything.

On the other hand, have you ever notice which countries comprise the U.N.? How are many of them in a position to teach a lesson?
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:03 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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How would you feel if the Natives today came and knocked on every home with the support of the U.N. to displace and massacre the white people in every state? That wouldn't feel good, because the Palestinians were in the same position, the Jews had their own areas but they just started taking land inch by inch, and thats wrong, its called stealing, because you're trying to take someone else's land by force, i know that the Jews used to live in Israel long time ago, but that doesn't give them the right to displace innocent civilians who did nothing to harm them.
It is Israeli land. Period. Those people who you are mentioning fought in a war and lost. Israel had a choice in 1967 (at the end of war that they did not start) to either move them all out then or let them continue live on the land under Israeli rule. The Israelis let them live there under Israel rules. If they broke the rules or laws of Israel, they were arrested and placed in prison. They did not at any time go and massacre anyone on Israeli land.

Stop using the United States for your comparisons as there are none. Why don't try Russia instead?
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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The cool thing is that this seems to be a largely uniting issue for Americans...

Israel needs to start sinking or swimming on their own. I don't have a problem defending them if they are seriously wronged, but they clearly don't have any regard for our opinions in many matters and, at times, have chosen a course that serves only to make life harder for the U.S. in that region.

Time to stop being "Mommy" and cut the umbilical cord. If we agree with Israel in principle? Great. If we don't? Too bad for them, they go it alone. The days of unconditional support have to end.
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Old 03-01-2010, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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The US CA$H cow needs to dry up the money bag, and grow some nads. But that's unlikely, because the US is a wu$$ where the "friends and allies" are concerned.
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:47 PM
 
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This is Israeli land. Period. Any Arabs living there have no rights to the land (unless their deeds were re-granted by Israel). Their deeds say Jordan. Jordan lost the land in war. Jordan gave up all rights to the land. Thus if the Arabs have an issue, they should go speak to Jordan. As to the UN, they need to stop occupying land in NYC and leave (Somalia sounds nice).
Exactly. Build away. Pave it over and lay tract upon tract of homes. It's theirs, that is the reality of it. They can and should do with it as they wish.
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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....... because the US is a wu$$ ............
No its not. It just has strange ways of spending money. The US gave Israel on 2010 $2.55B dollars with strings attached. The strings are that the US REQUIRES Israel to spend a minimum of 75% of it in the US on American Military toys (arms). And just in case you want Obama to cut this, he can't. Bush set this Aid Agreement to expire in 2018.
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:20 PM
 
Location: OB
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The US CA$H cow needs to dry up the money bag, and grow some nads. But that's unlikely, because the US is a wu$$ where the "friends and allies" are concerned.
Peggy Anne - I know your retort to me will be to stop giving all countries financial aid but that is unrealistic. I think for the sake of discussion it should be noted that we give Egypt money, Jordan money, I'm sure Lebanon gets some loot, the PLA gets assistance, Pakis get assistance - I think a very valid agruement can be made that we give more $$$/financial assistance to muslims than jews.
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Unknown
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It is Israeli land. Period. Those people who you are mentioning fought in a war and lost.
It doesn't matter who wins or loses, if you take something by force you have to return it, its that simple.
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Israel had a choice in 1967 (at the end of war that they did not start) to either move them all out then or let them continue live on the land under Israeli rule. The Israelis let them live there under Israel rules.
They let them live under Israeli rules, but the Palestinians face discrimination by the government and the ordinary people.
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If they broke the rules or laws of Israel, they were arrested and placed in prison. They did not at any time go and massacre anyone on Israeli land.
No they're treated as second class citizens, just accept this fact, because i have a friend who's arab and has relatives who live in Israel, they face a lot of racism. The IDF used to arrest Palestinian protesters and take a big rock and smash it on their hands until their bones break, this treatment was inhuman, today the Palestinains are not even allowed to pray in the holy mosque, this is unfair, how would you feel if the Palestinains forbade the Jews from attending their holiest synagoge.

The problem with you, is that you seem to ignore the true facts for some reason, and i know it hurts you from the inside but you're still denying it.
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Unknown
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Peggy Anne - I know your retort to me will be to stop giving all countries financial aid but that is unrealistic. I think for the sake of discussion it should be noted that we give Egypt money, Jordan money, I'm sure Lebanon gets some loot, the PLA gets assistance, Pakis get assistance - I think a very valid agruement can be made that we give more $$$/financial assistance to muslims than jews.
We're talking about the Palestinains and Israel, not the other Muslim nations.
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