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Old 02-28-2010, 04:21 PM
 
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...but we sure as hell don't like any organization or program that tries to achieve those goals?

Blacks (ever notice that it is never black PEOPLE?) need to go to get an education so they can get a job and stop blaming the white man!

But the National Negro College Fund is Racist for trying to do that.

Black need to get over feeling like victims, get some self-esteem and join the rest of society!

But that Black History Month is racist because it promotes black self-esteem and teaches blacks that they have contributed in many positive ways to the history of this country!

"When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his "proper place" and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary."
-- Dr. Carter G. Woodson, "TheMiseducation of the Negro"

Dr. Carter Woodson, Founder of Black History Month* -- Courtesy of The Freeman Institute

Blacks need to stop their criminal behavior, unwed pregnancies and other behaviors that keep them in poverty.

That's why we decry organizations like the NAACP for their racist attempts to... stop teen pregnancy, black on black crime (who are the vast majority of black crime victims), and annually honors those African Americans who have lived exemplary lives in the hopes that other African Americans might emulate them.


Blacks need to stop rioting and protesting in the street, you need to join the system!

But that Congressional Black Caucus is Racist because they get together inside the system and try to promote the interest of black folks!

Lawd Almighty, I'll be damned if it don't make a colored man's head spin!

Generally, I avoid the black.... threads for the very reasons that I've pointed out above, with a little touch of schadenfreude ( I now that's a mighty pretension word for an old colored man, but ole Ezra Cornell thought negroes were worth educating). The comments are verbatum and they might be a bit exaggerated but I think that point is pretty much right on the money.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:38 PM
 
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...but we sure as hell don't like any organization or program that tries to achieve those goals?

Blacks (ever notice that it is never black PEOPLE?) need to go to get an education so they can get a job and stop blaming the white man!

But the National Negro College Fund is Racist for trying to do that.

Black need to get over feeling like victims, get some self-esteem and join the rest of society!

But that Black History Month is racist because it promotes black self-esteem and teaches blacks that they have contributed in many positive ways to the history of this country!

"When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his "proper place" and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary."
-- Dr. Carter G. Woodson, "TheMiseducation of the Negro"

Dr. Carter Woodson, Founder of Black History Month* -- Courtesy of The Freeman Institute

Blacks need to stop their criminal behavior, unwed pregnancies and other behaviors that keep them in poverty.

That's why we decry organizations like the NAACP for their racist attempts to... stop teen pregnancy, black on black crime (who are the vast majority of black crime victims), and annually honors those African Americans who have lived exemplary lives in the hopes that other African Americans might emulate them.


Blacks need to stop rioting and protesting in the street, you need to join the system!

But that Congressional Black Caucus is Racist because they get together inside the system and try to promote the interest of black folks!

Lawd Almighty, I'll be damned if it don't make a colored man's head spin!

Generally, I avoid the black.... threads for the very reasons that I've pointed out above, with a little touch of schadenfreude ( I now that's a mighty pretension word for an old colored man, but ole Ezra Cornell thought negroes were worth educating). The comments are verbatum and they might be a bit exaggerated but I think that point is pretty much right on the money.
I agree with you...I'm Jewish and lost a lot of family members during WWll, and in my family we don't talk about it much, although I wish my parents would tell me a little bit more about it, but the can't....

Our family had to make it on our own and by blaming others the whole time wouldn't have helped us much....

I get sick of black people talking about being slaves etc....they obvious forgot that Jewish people were slaves as well and hardly any Jew will talk about it...

Stop Whining and get a life!
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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...but we sure as hell don't like any organization or program that tries to achieve those goals?

Blacks (ever notice that it is never black PEOPLE?) need to go to get an education so they can get a job and stop blaming the white man!

But the National Negro College Fund is Racist for trying to do that.

Black need to get over feeling like victims, get some self-esteem and join the rest of society!

But that Black History Month is racist because it promotes black self-esteem and teaches blacks that they have contributed in many positive ways to the history of this country!

"When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his "proper place" and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary."
-- Dr. Carter G. Woodson, "TheMiseducation of the Negro"

Dr. Carter Woodson, Founder of Black History Month* -- Courtesy of The Freeman Institute

Blacks need to stop their criminal behavior, unwed pregnancies and other behaviors that keep them in poverty.

That's why we decry organizations like the NAACP for their racist attempts to... stop teen pregnancy, black on black crime (who are the vast majority of black crime victims), and annually honors those African Americans who have lived exemplary lives in the hopes that other African Americans might emulate them.


Blacks need to stop rioting and protesting in the street, you need to join the system!

But that Congressional Black Caucus is Racist because they get together inside the system and try to promote the interest of black folks!

Lawd Almighty, I'll be damned if it don't make a colored man's head spin!

Generally, I avoid the black.... threads for the very reasons that I've pointed out above, with a little touch of schadenfreude ( I now that's a mighty pretension word for an old colored man, but ole Ezra Cornell thought negroes were worth educating). The comments are verbatum and they might be a bit exaggerated but I think that point is pretty much right on the money.
You need to change the title of your thread to "We want people living on welfare to................". I wonder why people always want to play the race card.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I agree with you...I'm Jewish and lost a lot of family members during WWll, and in my family we don't talk about it much, although I wish my parents would tell me a little bit more about it, but the can't....

Our family had to make it on our own and by blaming others the whole time wouldn't have helped us much....

I get sick of black people talking about being slaves etc....they obvious forgot that Jewish people were slaves as well and hardly any Jew will talk about it...

Stop Whining and get a life!
Well. I'm sure someone will bring this up or someone has brought it up before; but I do not think it is fair to compare being Jewish with being Black. Jewish people, even dark Sephardic Jews, have the option of "not being Jewish" if it is practial at the moment. Blacks on the other hand, cannot pretend to be something else if danger looms or they are fearful. Even the lightest of light skinned blacks often carry characteristics that identify them. There are exceptions, of course.

However, that being said. I agree with your sentiment. They do need to get over it and move on. Black people seem to be the ones that are holding the race back. Not white people.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: USA Rez
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Smile We don't like Blacks who become Africans.

Black people, like Native people and all people need to return to their tribal ways and stop using the whiteman's organizations to try and change their communities...return to the tribe...and things will change...men will finally get off their knees and become fathers...and women be once more respected as the givers of life...and elders will become rulers rather than victims...and children will grow to be dependent on themselves as adults rather than the handouts and hand me downs of the whiteman...aho
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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You need to change the title of your thread to "We want people living on welfare to................". I wonder why people always want to play the race card.
If I where addressing welfare threads that would be a nice suggestion. So, thank you, but I don't think that it would be a good fit.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:52 PM
 
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Black people, like Native people and all people need to return to their tribal ways and stop using the whiteman's organizations to try and change their communities...return to the tribe...and things will change...men will finally get off their knees and become fathers...and women be once more respected as the givers of life...and elders will become rulers rather than victims...and children will grow to be dependent on themselves as adults rather than the handouts and hand me downs of the whiteman...aho

If I may paraphrase Malcolm X,

"You are going to tell me, how to take your foot off of my neck?"
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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If I may translate using a quote from Malcolm X,

"You are going to tell me, how to take your foot off of my neck?"
Malcom X is not the best example to use for the furtherance of the black race. He didn't do much to help, if you ask me. Better to use the "Facing the Challenges of a New Age" Speech from Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King,. Jr when he said.....

"If it falls to our luck to be street-sweepers, sweep the streets, like Raphael painted pictures, like Michaelangelo carved marble, like Shakespeare wrote poetry, and like Beethoven composed music. Sweep the streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth would have to pause and say ... ...Here lived a great street sweeper"
-- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., June 20, 1965, Kingston, Jamaica

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Old 02-28-2010, 05:00 PM
 
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Malcom X is not the best example to use for the furtherance of the black race. He didn't do much to help, if you ask me.
With all due respect, that is why I didn't ask you.

The point of this tread is that the last thing that black folks need or should do is accept the advice of white folks about what black folks should or should not do. If we did, we'd still be picking cotton for Mr. Charlie, riding in the back of the Prius, and praying to the Lawd for a black moses, because as I am pointing out, in a somewhat tongue and cheek manner is that we are damned if we do and damned if we don't, which is damned perplexing state of being.

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Old 02-28-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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If I may translate using a quote from Malcolm X,

"You are going to tell me, how to take your foot off of my neck?"
I hear both of you and I understand what both of you are saying.

Please forgive my intrusion into your conversation, but I have a sincere question for both of you....

I would really like to know when you're going to quit hating me simply because I'm white?
I don't hate you.

When I studied black history, I was shocked and appalled at what I learned.
But, I have no control over the things that were done long before you and I were even born.

No one can re-write history.

I can't do anything about the haters that are among us but they are not the majority of our citizens.

Having grown up in the south and at a time when your civil rights were being won, I've also aquired some baggage....
You are not blameless in where we are today.

I sincerely want to know how can we move forward together if we are constantly arguing over the past....???

How can we learn to forgive and move forward?

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