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Old 03-07-2010, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Precisley! The deals were struck at secret meetings and planned well in advance of Iraq's invasion. Some people are naive enough to believe that the American people were ever going to benefit in any way from this war. Weren't we told that Iraqi oil would pay for the war? What happened to that plan?

THE BUSH-CHENEY OIL WAR

Administration Plans to Steal Iraqi Oil For Mega-Rich Revealed for First Time

BUSH-CHENEY OIL

Bush-Cheney Crony Got Iraq Oil Deal
Bush-Cheney Crony Got Iraq Oil Deal | Atlantic Free Press - Hard Truths for Hard Times
So, when does Bush-Cheney get the oil?
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:14 AM
 
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So, when does Bush-Cheney get the oil?
This is where the liberals get nutty - they claim that Bush, Cheney, and their Machiavellian cohorts personally profited from the war and all that ****. But, did Bush and Cheney want American companies to get those oil field contracts? Hell yes.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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So, when does Bush-Cheney get the oil?
Already got it! You didnt hear that the wells were privatized?

Thats what the entire invasion was about.

ACCESS
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The Iraqi government decided to give most of the contracts to non-U.S. companies. This was not planned. The neo-conservative strategists thought that American companies would get most of the rights.
American oil companies, headed by multinational conglomerates, had a catbird seat in winning these contracts. One bitter irony that compounds this egregious war of aggression is the date it was launched, in 2003.

Thats 50 years after a VERY significant Middle Eastern event that occurred. One that most Americans are likely unaware of.

Either way, if you think U.S. oil companies were shut out at the bidding you are sorely mistaken
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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Anyone with any sense knows that the illegal war was all about the oil. The shamelss war profiteering that ensued was the bonus for other Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cronies. It is stunning that there are still people that insist that the previous administration gave a rat's butt for the people of Iraq and whether or not they had a "democracy". Sure! What is even more stunning is the fact that when you grab power and money, you are above the law.
It's always been about the oil. No new exploration/production in the Gulf of Mexico, east coast or California. No digging shale in Colorado. Wonder how long it'll take to change the rules in Pennsylvania.

Let's just import all that oil and send our borrowed cash to Dubai.
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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It's always been about the oil. No new exploration/production in the Gulf of Mexico, east coast or California. No digging shale in Colorado. Wonder how long it'll take to change the rules in Pennsylvania.

Let's just import all that oil and send our borrowed cash to Dubai.
Lets see here:

Door #1

A) Give money to corrupt, oil producing governments who keep their people separated from their nations wealth while living in obscene splendor, which breeds terrorism.
B) Continue to increase dependance of the world on fossil fuels, thereby contributing to climate change.

Or you can choose Door #2

A) Invest in alternative energy sources that will lessen your dependance on contributing wealth to oil bloated sheiks who secretly pay off terrorists and show their "support" in other ways
B) Work on reducing your carbon output and dependence on fossil fuels, thereby helping the planet (and if you are a denialist, then you still cannot deny that less pollution is a good thing, right? Right?)
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Already got it! You didnt hear that the wells were privatized?

Thats what the entire invasion was about.

ACCESS
Could you provide more info?
Are the only owners of that well Bush and Cheney?
How much oil are we talking about? How many billions of barrels?

If that was what the entire invasion was about, then Bill Clinton and many Democrats in Congress must have been in on it (and profited), too, because regime change in Iraq was being discussed back in 1998.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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Lets see here:

Door #1

A) Give money to corrupt, oil producing governments who keep their people separated from their nations wealth while living in obscene splendor, which breeds terrorism.
B) Continue to increase dependance of the world on fossil fuels, thereby contributing to climate change.

Or you can choose Door #2

A) Invest in alternative energy sources that will lessen your dependance on contributing wealth to oil bloated sheiks who secretly pay off terrorists and show their "support" in other ways
B) Work on reducing your carbon output and dependence on fossil fuels, thereby helping the planet (and if you are a denialist, then you still cannot deny that less pollution is a good thing, right? Right?)
Or Door #3...

Tap into our own oil (of which we have plenty in the northern mid-west and off-shore) while investing and researching alternative energy sources.

BTW, climate change (formally known as "global warming") is a completely natural phenomenon. If the climate never changed, that would be cause for concern.
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Old 03-07-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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uhmmm,

Iraq and alqueda were connected.......iraq had nothing to do with 9/11,,,and nobody said it did, but lraq and alqueda were together on somethings


US State Department
November 4, 1998

Bin Laden, Atef Indicted in U.S. Federal Court for African Bombings

New York -- Usama bin Laden and Muhammad Atef were indicted November 4 in Manhattan federal court for the August 7 bombings of the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and for conspiring to kill Americans outside the United States.

Bin Laden's "al Qaeda" organization functioned both on its own and through other terrorist organizations, including the Al Jihad group based in Egypt, the Islamic Group also known as el Gamaa Islamia led at one time by Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, and a number of other jihad groups in countries such as Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Somalia.

Bin Laden, the US Attorney charged, engaged in business transactions on behalf of Al Qaeda, including purchasing warehouses for storage of explosives, transporting weapons, and establishing a series of companies in Sudan to provide income to al Qaeda and as a cover for the procurement of explosives, weapons, and chemicals, and for the travel of operatives.

According to the indictment, bin Laden and al Qaeda forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in Sudan and with representatives of the Government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah with the goal of working together against their common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.

"In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq," the indictment said.
Beginning in 1992, bin Laden allegedly issued through his "fatwah" committees a series of escalating "fatwahs" against the United States, certain military personnel, and, eventually in February 1998, a "fatwah" stating that Muslims should kill Americans -- including civilians -- anywhere in the world they can be found.



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The Guardian
February 6, 1999

Saddam link to Bin Laden

By Julian Borger

Saddam Hussein's regime has opened talks with Osama bin Laden, bringing closer the threat of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological or nuclear weapons, according to US intelligence sources and Iraqi opposition officials.

The key meeting took place in the Afghan mountains near Kandahar in late December. The Iraqi delegation was led by Farouk Hijazi, Baghdad's ambassador in Turkey and one of Saddam's most powerful secret policemen, who is thought to have offered Bin Laden asylum in Iraq.

News of the negotiations emerged in a week when the US attorney general, Janet Reno, warned the Senate that a terrorist attack involving weapons of mass destruction was a growing concern. "There's a threat, and it's real," Ms Reno said, adding that such weapons "are being considered for use."

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notice the dates.....well before bush was even in the whitehouse
Basicly the agreement you quote assures Iraq that Al Qaeda will not work against Iraq, and will let Iraq in on any weapons development that transpires. If that philosophical agreement is all that is required to invade a country, then most of the Arab world would be at risk for invasion, especially Saudi Arabia where Bin Laden hailed from, and where the militant Wahabbist philosophy originated.
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Old 03-07-2010, 03:51 PM
 
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It was all laid out in the 'meat charts'

"There’s something almost obscene about a map that was passed around among senior Bush administration officials and a select group of oil company executives in the spring of 2001.

It doesn’t show the kind of detail normally shown on maps — cities, towns, regions.

Rather its detail is all about Iraq’s oil.

The southwest is neatly divided, for instance, into nine “Exploration Blocks.”

tripped of political trappings, this map shows a naked Iraq, with only its ample natural assets in view.

It’s like a supermarket meat chart, which identifies the various parts of a slab of beef so customers can see the most desirable cuts … Block 1 might be the striploin, Blocks 2 and 3 are perhaps some juicy tenderloin, but Block 8 — ahh, that could be the filet mignon."

EXCERPT 'It's the Crude, Dude War, Big Oil and the Fight for the Planet'
by Linda McQuaig

READ Magazine - It's the Crude, Dude -- War, Big Oil and the Fight for the Planet (http://www.randomhouse.ca/readmag/volume5issue1/excerpts/itsthecrude.htm - broken link)

MAPS AND CHARTS OF IRAQI OILFIELDS: CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORC
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