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Old 03-07-2010, 02:01 PM
 
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Personally, I would prefer the death penalty to be "not" legal if those were my only choices, ("illegal" is a poor use of the word). But then I'm a guy and don't have to be concerned about unwanted pregnancy.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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and what is a fetus? it's not hte child of the parents? at what magical moment does it become the child? what happens at the magical moment do you say "tee hee! it's not longer a bunch of cells, it's my child!"?

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Old 03-07-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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abortion be legal

or death penalty to be illegal

which do you choose?
Why do conservatives dumb down so many things?

I mean, they LOVE either/or and black/white. Nuance is not their forté.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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I support legal abortion...up to a point.

There should be a Constitutional amendment explictly permitting it, up to 12 weeks.

I also support the death penalty, in certain very strictly limited circumstances. For sociopaths, like Ted Bundy.

In his case, I'd pull the switch. Not with any relish. It would haunt my nightmares as long as I lived. But, if I didn't, I'd have worse nightmares over his future victims.

PS: Gov. Rick Perry of TX is a murderer. He presided over the execution of a demonstrably innocent man.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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It's called a hypothetical. Instead of avoiding it, answer the question.
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So codemned criminals are more worthy of life to you than children?
Ah, the intent is revealed - brilliant.

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Abortion is completely avoidable, but would involve responsal responsibility, something liberals abhore.
Ya got me - this liberal abhors "responsal" responsibility.

(I believe that makes at least 6 votes for lame)
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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Why don't we go back to the standard the Catholic Church used for so many years: abortions are okay until the quickening.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_pregnant.jpg

it's not a person, it's a choice!
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Abortion is completely avoidable, but would involve responsal responsibility, something liberals abhore. Are unwanted pregnancies higher now or than in the 1950s, when there was no birth control?

Abortion just enables irresponsible behavior. Let me ask you, presume you are a woman, would you more or less likely to havea drunken one night stand, no BC used, if you knew you couldn't get an abortion?
What about rape?
What about when a pregnancy endangers the woman's health or her life?
What about when a woman finds out the fetus will be born without a face or a brain?

Abortion should be allowed in these cases.
They should even be allowed when a woman didn't use BC and ended up pregnant as a result.

It seems there is no way to win with the anti-choice crowd.
Many anti-choice websites claim BC is murder.

SBC Can't Agree Whether Birth Control is "Murder" | Right Wing Watch

Birth Control Pill Causes Abortions -- Pro-Life America, Celebs expose abortion! Celebrities, Speakers, TV, Radio, Videos and Literature to help save moms and babies from the pain and suffering of abortion. Save sex for marriage and choose life, not

More and More Seeing that "The Pill Kills"

There have even been "pro-life" groups protesting insurance companies covering birth control.

There are very few people who take abortion lightly. I doubt there are many women out there having unprotected sex and thinking, "Eh...I'll just have an abortion."
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I support legal abortion...up to a point.

There should be a Constitutional amendment explictly permitting it, up to 12 weeks.

I also support the death penalty, in certain very strictly limited circumstances. For sociopaths, like Ted Bundy.

In his case, I'd pull the switch. Not with any relish. It would haunt my nightmares as long as I lived. But, if I didn't, I'd have worse nightmares over his future victims.

PS: Gov. Rick Perry of TX is a murderer. He presided over the execution of a demonstrably innocent man.

(1) You'd get a "grrrl power" I didn't know I was pregnant response..

(2) If you wanted to execute sociopaths, you'd have to execute all of our elected officials
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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What about rape?
What about when a pregnancy endangers the woman's health or her life?
What about when a woman finds out the fetus will be born without a face or a brain?

Abortion should be allowed in these cases.
They should even be allowed when a woman didn't use BC and ended up pregnant as a result.

It seems there is no way to win with the anti-choice crowd.
Many anti-choice websites claim BC is murder.

SBC Can't Agree Whether Birth Control is "Murder" | Right Wing Watch

Birth Control Pill Causes Abortions -- Pro-Life America, Celebs expose abortion! Celebrities, Speakers, TV, Radio, Videos and Literature to help save moms and babies from the pain and suffering of abortion. Save sex for marriage and choose life, not

More and More Seeing that "The Pill Kills"

There have even been "pro-life" groups protesting insurance companies covering birth control.

There are very few people who take abortion lightly. I doubt there are many women out there having unprotected sex and thinking, "Eh...I'll just have an abortion."
I have zero problem with abortion for the physical health of the mother, rape, less so for birth defects, but my problem is with abortion for birth control purposes. It enables irresponsibility. Only a sociopath would kill their child because they were irresponsible.
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