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Old 03-19-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I don't understand why the census needs to know if you own your home or have a mortgage, so I did not fill in that information. The can send someone to the door if it is that important or just look up the public records.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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If you don't fill one of those out the US Government will come after you and embrace you as one of them as they're too.
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:28 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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There is only one: HUMAN.
Technically you are correct. Ethnicity is what I was referring to.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:06 PM
 
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Not relevant to the issue. As I said, good, bad, or indifferent as to the use of the information, the point is the authority in demanding it.

It appears that they do not have the authority to, but due to layering of adjustments to the wording of Title 13 over the years, the focus more on the security of the information or the usefulness of it has led to the main issue of its actual authority falling to the background.

Even in that court case, the key reasoning of the defense was using "pecies" of the law to imply the proper context as well as focusing on the above as I mentioned.

This isn't anything new though. You can see this problem in many of our laws today. Be it with good intentions or bad ones, they overlook the actual authority to serve their purpose.
Census in the Constitution - 2010 Census (http://2010.census.gov/2010census/why/constitutional.php - broken link)

Meanwhile, here are things your census information goes to determine.
Why Responding to the Census is Important

Your Voice in Washington: Population totals from Census 2010 will determine the number of seats each state holds in the US House of Representatives. Under this process, known as "apportionment," the number of seats in the House of Representatives has grown from 106 after the 1790 census, to 435 today. Through apportionment, states that grow in population may gain seats, while states with lowering populations may lose seats. By law, The U.S. Census Bureau must submit state population totals from Census 2010 to the President of the United States by December 31, 2010.

Your Money: Cutting right to the chase, over $400 billion in federal funding is distributed to communities each year based to a large extent on the results of the US census. Besides affecting the total federal funding received by your community, data collected in the census is used by local governments to determine exactly how that money will be used.

Where the Jobs Go: Census data are used by the private sector as well as state and local governments to determine where new jobs and job development programs are needed.

Community Facilities and Services: Want a new hospital in your neighborhood? How about a new school, fire station or public library? Community planners and leaders use census data to decide where such essential facilities are most needed.

Consumers: Corporations large and small use census data for market research to determine the locations for new commercial enterprises, such as grocery stores, pharmacies and other essential services. Potential homebuyers use census data to research property values, median income and other demographic information about a particular community or neighborhood.
Census 2010 – About Census 2010 and Why Census 2010 is Important to You
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:13 PM
 
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Never heard anyone complain about the friggin' Census until Obama took office.

It's all so very transparent.

I hope you are fooling yourselves, because you aren't fooling anyone else.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:20 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Never heard anyone complain about the friggin' Census until Obama took office.

It's all so very transparent.

I hope you are fooling yourselves, because you aren't fooling anyone else.

I filled it out the same way in 1980, 2000 and now 2010.

only the 1st question answered.

1990 I was ordered to answer all my questions by my commanding officer.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:23 PM
 
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I filled it out the same way in 1980, 2000 and now 2010.

only the 1st question answered.

1990 I was ordered to answer all my questions by my commanding officer.
Did he add, "For God's sake, grow up"?
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Did he add, "For God's sake, grow up"?

nope, he just thought he was a UN soldier and not a soldier following the Constitution, sort of like you are talking now.

no reason for me to answer any other question other than the 1st one.


strange that he did not follow my battalion commanders advice and only fill out the 1st question, as the goverment did not have a need to know the rest of the information.
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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I filled it out the same way in 1980, 2000 and now 2010.

only the 1st question answered.

1990 I was ordered to answer all my questions by my commanding officer.
Well goodie for you! What a rebel! Such a rebel that he was in the military!

*cookie*
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Old 03-19-2010, 06:34 PM
 
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Well goodie for you! What a rebel! Such a rebel that he was in the military!

*cookie*
"That's why I joined the Army innit, to be different." - Quadropehenia (1979)
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