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Old 03-10-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Nice (but unsuccessful) attempt at diversion from your own statement claiming "According to the poll, we are less respected now than 2 years ago."


That's simply NOT what the poll says. If you're going to start a thread citing a poll perhaps you should familiarize yourself with what the poll actually says?
Yes, according to the poll of Americans, they think we are less respected now than two years ago.

Take your complaints about this poll you don't want to see to the democrats who conducted the thing - Carville and Greenberg.

You don't like what it says - that's just too bad.

Deal with it.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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But ya know if you're happy going with American perception without actually asking well that's your right I guess..but I wouldn't be too sure that the rest of the world is particularly interested in Obama. He's not annoying the crap out of most of us the way that George did so I'd suggest that most of the world don't have a problem with him.
I didn't conduct the poll, just reported it, which seems to have hit a raw nerve with some.

A poll regarding American beliefs has meaning, whether you want it to or not.

I can understand why some might not like the answer, considering all the promise of hopeNchange and a new day dawning.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:06 AM
 
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I didn't conduct the poll, just reported it, which seems to have hit a raw nerve with some.

A poll regarding American beliefs has meaning, whether you want it to or not.

I can understand why some might not like the answer, considering all the promise of hopeNchange and a new day dawning.
It hasn't hit a raw nerve that I can see. Most people seem to have seen it for the lunancy that it is.

Ultimately it's not really an answer.

The really unfortunate bit about it is that for the most part I reckon the world in general is a lot more optimistic about America and Americans BUT seemingly some Americans are too caught up in fantasy land to even acknowledge it, let alone enjoy it. Not to mention you've all been Murdoched anyway so I'm not surprised many of you don't know which way is up anymore.
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Old 03-10-2010, 08:39 AM
 
Location: just here
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LOL, this thread rocks. The OP has totally been called out on the non-validity & stupidness of this whole topic. I LOVE IT!!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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I didn't conduct the poll, just reported it, which seems to have hit a raw nerve with some.

A poll regarding American beliefs has meaning, whether you want it to or not.

I can understand why some might not like the answer, considering all the promise of hopeNchange and a new day dawning.
You mean you MIS-reported it....

This poll doesn't say what you think it says.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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This poll is about American perceptions.....really very simple.

Do Americans see their country more or less respected around the world.

The democrat pollster got an answer the Lefties don't like.

Boo-hoo. Deal with it.

According to the poll, we are less respected now than 2 years ago.

I would agree.
So you agree that your perception is faulty.

Global Perceptions of U.S. Leadership Improve in 2009

What does it say about Americans that their perceptions are so different from reality?
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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According to the poll, we are less respected now than 2 years ago.
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Yes, according to the poll of Americans, they think we are less respected now than two years ago.

Are you really unable to understand the difference between "we are" and "they think we are" or does your zealous Obama bashing simply close your eyes to facts?

YOU started this thread citing this inane poll, at least make an attempt to read and understand it.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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LOL, this thread rocks. The OP has totally been called out on the non-validity & stupidness of this whole topic. I LOVE IT!!!
Really? How so?

The poll, taken by democrats asks the question about how Americans think the world sees the US and comes away with an answer that is stunning.

In this poll, Americans believe that the US is LESS respected now than 2 years ago.

Hilarious! This is NOT how it was supposed to be with the ascension of obama as the world's president.

Others seem to be taking the poll seriously, like the MSM.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You mean you MIS-reported it....

This poll doesn't say what you think it says.
Says exactly what I said it says;

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A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the world than it was two years ago and think President Obama and other Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security, a new poll finds.

The Democracy Corps-Third Way survey released Monday finds that by a 10-point margin -- 51 percent to 41 percent -- Americans think the standing of the U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama's presidency.
Pay attention now - "Americans think......"
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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Says exactly what I said it says;



Pay attention now - "Americans think......"
Americans "THINKING" it doesn't mean it's actually true.

While the poll is significant about American perception, it doesn't really say anything about world perception. Which is what you are addressing when you make remarks like "world's President".

You cannot make conclusive remarks about whether the United States has risen in world opinion based on a study that focuses solely on American perceptions.
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