Why are they still here? (lawyers, deaths, black president, crime)
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Can someone Please tell me why convicted (admitted) killers are being warehoused in our jails? Examples like Charles Manson, lifers in prison that have killed people while in prison, individuals doing life in solitary confinement b/c they are a threat to everyone, and other mass murderers. Why don't they just execute them? These people waste tax dollars and will never be a part of society (prison or anywhere else).
I know that it is strange but I'm not really a pro-execution type guy, but in some cases ......it is what it is.
I've wondered the same thing too. I understand giving someone the right to appeal but the process shouldn't take 20+years. I consider myself a liberal with exception to being pro-execution. I also believe anyone cnonvicted of a sex crime should also be put to death IMHO.
I just finished a true crime book recently about someone who was given the death penalty in Nevada some years ago. He wanted to be executed ASAP, no appeals.
Well, he got to Death Row and if you're one of these freaks who wants to be executed ASAP, the others on Death Row will make your life a living hell and so will the guards (they have to eat, you know!).
And lawyers will pressure you to no end to do appeal after appeal (they have to eat, too, you know!).
It's been said that prisons are bound to bankrupt this country eventually.
This is the country of waste, it's everywhere. $50k a year to house an inmate, inclusive of both direct and indirect costs (the prison chiefs will only give you the direct costs).
And no one is brave enough, politically, to take on the prison mafia.
1 out of 3 black men, between the ages of 20-29, are in prison today and we have a black president! Do you hear him speaking on their behalf? Denouncing the prison industry? Will he do a mass pardon of some of these people at the end of this term? Unlikely!
Manson was originally given a death sentence. That sentence was commuted to life in prison in the early 70s when the Supreme Court declared the death penalty as then applied unConstitutional.
A note, without cites as I don't feel like finding them right now: keeping a prisoner in prison costs about $50K/year. Carrying out a death sentence runs in the range of $2M to $6M. I think I read that the Tookie Williams execution ended up costing CA close to $20M. A life sentence without parole (Manson comes up for parole every couple years) is actually more cost effective.
More irony from the right... We're afraid of the big bad incompetent gubmint. But we want the gubmint to have the ability to put citizens to death... the ultimate power.
More irony from the right... We're afraid of the big bad incompetent gubmint. But we want the gubmint to have the ability to put citizens to death... the ultimate power.
So true. Let the families of the victims snuff the murderers, instead.
So true. Let the families of the victims snuff the murderers, instead.
Then we'd all be better off.
What about the families of the victims that don't want to have one person's abhorent behaviour change their basic human values despite the heinousness of the act and its impact on their lives?
AND what about the families of the victims who actually DO push for the death penalty only to discover that it offers them no relief from their suffering at all AND in many cases even adds to it?
What about the families of the victims that don't want to have one person's abhorent behaviour change their basic human values despite the heinousness of the act and its impact on their lives?
Why, they can elect to let the scum live. At least they'd get to participate in it, instead of leaving the decision up to pretentious windbags, most of whom have never felt an "impact" in their lives...
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AND what about the families of the victims who actually DO push for the death penalty only to discover that it offers them no relief from their suffering at all AND in many cases even adds to it?
Finding no relief is better than prolonging the life of those who have forfeited their right to life. Again, at least those affected would have some say in the denouement...
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