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Beside all the rabid hatred for Obama, as most of the posts are, can anyone provide an account of having to suffer a personal hardship directly attributed to Obama?
I'm not sure how it matters, if the things 0bama has already done have not completely manifested themselves in a direct and personally harmful way, yet. Are we not allowed to speak up against those things, until after we have suffered some form of grave hardship?
Bush got the country into a war in Iraq, are people not allowed to argue against it, unless they "suffer a personal hardship" directly?
Taking over control of banks, insurance companies, auto manufacturers, the entire college student loan industry, massive health care take over, trillions in borrowing from foreign nations to create a new national debt, carbon cap & trade, and regulating CO2 and energy use and production.
Some of these things have already happened, and others are being proposed by 0bama. They will all affect each and every one of us in a direct way, the increased taxes, the loss of freedoms and liberty will be harmful.
But according to what you posted, am I not allowed to complain about any of these until after the fact?
It is dangerous, economically, for 0bama to run up the debt like he is, am I supposed to wait until our country looses its AAA rating, or countries start dumping the dollar, interest rates skyrocket, inflation occurs and the dollar is no longer the international currency?
My post was in regard to those passing judgement on the outside world, even though few have any idea of the outside world. So how could they know what the outside world thinks of Obama?
BTW. I put 3 years of my life in the US Army.
And yet you seem to crave the attention and approval of the outside world, while stating that you don't care.
Beside all the rabid hatred for Obama, as most of the posts are, can anyone provide an account of having to suffer a personal hardship directly attributed to Obama?
So according to you, all posts that do not support Obama are "rabid hatred"?
Perhaps an attitude adjustment is what you need, along with a reality check.
Anti-Obama? What Suffering Has Obama Caused To You?
Many people here constantly rant and rave about Obama. What negative effects has the Obama Administration had on your life. Has he caused you to lose your job? Your home? Instigated domestic strife?
The troops are still in the same places where Bush sent them. The Patriot Act has been extended. So what are the negative results in your life that you can directly attribute to Obama being the President? Please be specific.
Well, the troops remain in the same places (reality check, the one that bounced during the Bush administration: nation-building doesn't work anymore) and the Patriot Act (who's minding the Constitution around here, anyway?) being extended, any failure to stanch the metastasis of government is a negative effect upon us; and, any governing stance that launches from the vantage point that the State is the alpha and omega of most of not all actual or imagined problems besetting man---whether it is competent or constitutionally sanctioned to bother about them---is a negative effect upon us.
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I can only assume trillions in deficit spending is what you want. If you ever have children, you can explain to them why $400 billion in taxes each year will go to just paying down the debt that 0bama has created.
0bama and his democrats in Washington can wax on about rosy scenarios of supposedly saving $10 billion a year from his health care plan, but the interest we will be paying on debt he is creating will dwarf those meager savings.
It's getting so old listening to you people who continue to blame this president for the problems he inherited from the previous administration...
Don't you get tired of saying the same things over and over?
It's always the same circular argument. You blame Obama. We point out history and the background of the current issues.. and the truth about your party's fiscal responsibilty.
And, then one of you will come back to the table and make the same exact same statement over again.
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It's getting so old listening to you people who continue to blame this president for the problems he inherited from the previous administration...
Don't you get tired of saying the same things over and over?
It's always the same circular argument. You blame Obama. We point out history and the background of the current issues.. and the truth about your party's fiscal responsibilty.
And, then one of you will come back to the table and make the same exact same statement over again.
What part of $800 billion stimulus bill was Bush's fault? What part of $220.9 deficit spending in just the month of Feb 2010 was Bush's fault, what part of 0bama proposal for a massive health care bill, and cap and trade are Bush's fault?
You know I'm getting sick and tired of people blaming everything 0bama is doing as if it were Bush's fault, just who the hell do you think 0bama is, he is our president, and he is responsible for what he does.
If a football team hired a new coach, and this new coach fired the entire coaching staff, brought in his entire coaching staff, and and rearranged all the players, and over one year later, after ending the season with a 1-11 record, and the coach blamed all his loses, and his inability to score on the previous coach, he'd be fired, and the fans would be calling for his head.
Oh, and BTW, I do fult Bush for spending like a damn drunken liberal democrat, but that does not excuse 0bama for spending as if he were a crack addict. He spent $220 billion in one freaking month, it was the largest deficit spending in one month, since the previous record held by 0bama.
You know after listening to numerous people regarding Obama most of it is absurb. He is to blame for the debt (although it was there before he got there and it takes more than a year to fix), the war (he is getting information from his military staff instead of oil company cronies), spending (like some of you know you have to spend money to make money), healthcare reform (If this was a concern for the refukicans why did'nt they do anything about the last 8 years?) and everything else from bowing too low to not getting a mutt from the rescue shelter. Hate me if you like but I like many others believe that the hatered for this man comes form the fact that he is a blackman and many of you refuse to led by one. So regardless of what he does he cannot win. My advice to him is to SCREW the refukicans since he tried to work with them and they won't do it. My other advice is to castrate the racist turncoats in his own party! Since even during the Bush years most of them act like they don't have a pair anyway!
People the only way that things will change for the better is to try to support him and quit listening to the stupid stuff that the corperations are feeding people like Beck, Rush and the rest who by-the-way are all millionaires. Should'nt that concern you? The weealthy have one agenda......to stay wealthy at all cost.
How has Obama's presidency affect me personally? Besides historical? Not at all .....well I have seen the ulgy side of politics and realize that I will NEVER vote for neither party until they get their head out of thier *s!
You know after listening to numerous people regarding Obama most of it is absurb. He is to blame for the debt (although it was there before he got there and it takes more than a year to fix), the war (he is getting information from his military staff instead of oil company cronies), spending (like some of you know you have to spend money to make money), healthcare reform (If this was a concern for the refukicans why did'nt they do anything about the last 8 years?) and everything else from bowing too low to not getting a mutt from the rescue shelter. Hate me if you like but I like many others believe that the hatered for this man comes form the fact that he is a blackman and many of you refuse to led by one. So regardless of what he does he cannot win. My advice to him is to SCREW the refukicans since he tried to work with them and they won't do it. My other advice is to castrate the racist turncoats in his own party! Since even during the Bush years most of them act like they don't have a pair anyway!
People the only way that things will change for the better is to try to support him and quit listening to the stupid stuff that the corperations are feeding people like Beck, Rush and the rest who by-the-way are all millionaires. Should'nt that concern you? The weealthy have one agenda......to stay wealthy at all cost.
How has Obama's presidency affect me personally? Besides historical? Not at all .....well I have seen the ulgy side of politics and realize that I will NEVER vote for neither party until they get their head out of thier *s!
It must be a good thing that you don't care about broken promises, outright lies and a dictatorial style of ruling, err, governing. And bringing in the racist aspect (which you yourself display with this post) puts a cherry on top of the who thing.
Anti-Obama? What Suffering Has Obama Caused To You?
Many people here constantly rant and rave about Obama. What negative effects has the Obama Administration had on your life. Has he caused you to lose your job? Your home? Instigated domestic strife?
The troops are still in the same places where Bush sent them. The Patriot Act has been extended. So what are the negative results in your life that you can directly attribute to Obama being the President? Please be specific.
1. Nationalized banks
2. nationalized the auto industry
3. attemtpting to nationalize healthcare
4. robbing medicare of 500 billion to spend on illegal immigrants
5. raising taxes (has let Bush cuts expire-hold on to your hat for the rest!)
6. killed off shore oil drilling
7. attempting to kill the coal industry and cause electricity rates to "skyrocket"
8. cap and trade in an attempt to increase US buisness taxes and make unemployment higher
9. Wasted over a trillion on a "stimulus" which did nothing- unemployment remains the same
10. Increased troop deployment and involvement in Afganistan- an war which cannot be won
11. Allowed the Iranians to get nuclear weapons, threatening the entire mideast
12. turned his back on Israel, our only ally in the region
13. mortgaged our children's future with a debt load that is insurmountable and ensures insolvency
14. proposes citizenship for illegals, costing tax payers hundreds of billions
15. Increased unemployment and lowered personal incomes
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